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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #360 on: March 05, 2014, 08:22:27 PM »
He'd provide a decent distraction or the cram school kids to escape; and even if he's weak, I'm sure the Illuminati wouldn't appreciate a random earthquake :P

Not to mention if Mephisto really wants to get rid of Amaimon he can send him on this suicide mission instead of outright killing him, since that's not really his style
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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #361 on: March 05, 2014, 08:48:18 PM »
Random earthquake actually sounds like a great technique at this point.

Well, except for the part where the exwires would be buried two deep under the rubble. Might want to get them out first. But once that's done, levelling the building would be a pretty efficient way to set back research.
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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #362 on: March 06, 2014, 02:55:12 AM »
@BrILLIANT, stop, this is turning into Salaryman chapter material those it must be drawn

Never! (insert maniac laughter)

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #363 on: March 08, 2014, 05:18:34 PM »
On another random note, was it mentioned that all demons have a fatal verse? Because I have this cracky theory/headcanon that the reason why demon kings (minus the fact that they're super powerful and stuff) cannot be defeated by even high-ranking exorcists is because the only way to dispel them besides harming the host body would be their fatal verse, which I think is probably like an entire book of the Bible (like all of Job, for example) or some long sutra/chant. Meaning, that you'd probably be dead before you could even finish reciting it.
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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #364 on: March 08, 2014, 09:07:06 PM »
Do fatal verses even kill demons?

I'm still not clear on what happens when a demon gets destroyed in Assiah. Are they really gone or do they just return to Gehenna?

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #365 on: March 08, 2014, 09:16:50 PM »
^ I think they die when they are exorcised in Assiah. It wouldn't make sense for them to fear exorcists otherwise.

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #366 on: March 08, 2014, 09:26:49 PM »
On another random note, was it mentioned that all demons have a fatal verse? Because I have this cracky theory/headcanon that the reason why demon kings (minus the fact that they're super powerful and stuff) cannot be defeated by even high-ranking exorcists is because the only way to dispel them besides harming the host body would be their fatal verse, which I think is probably like an entire book of the Bible (like all of Job, for example) or some long sutra/chant. Meaning, that you'd probably be dead before you could even finish reciting it.

What about the demon Fujimoto exorcised in chapter 1, if that demon is Astaroth like in the anime then the chant he used wasn't that long.

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #367 on: March 08, 2014, 09:33:30 PM »
If that demon was Ashtaroth Fujimoto wouldn't have killed it so easily. I don't think it is.

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #368 on: March 08, 2014, 09:42:05 PM »
If the anime was correct, the chant didn't kill him. He was back five minutes later.

In fact, it didn't seem to do anything, since he was still using the same body too.

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #369 on: March 08, 2014, 09:43:26 PM »
If that demon was Ashtaroth Fujimoto wouldn't have killed it so easily. I don't think it is.

In the Viz volume Fujimoto said he "drove out the demon" possibly meaning he just removed it/him from the boy's body not killed it, but your right he was defeated rather easily for a demon king even if
Fujimoto was the paladin.

If the anime was correct, the chant didn't kill him. He was back five minutes later.

In fact, it didn't seem to do anything, since he was still using the same body too.

Oh yeah, forgot about that.
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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #370 on: March 08, 2014, 10:34:44 PM »
I was under the impression that fatal verses were an easy/safe way to expel a demon from a human host. Like you wouldn't exactly want to shoot a demon-possessed human; a verse that expels it back to Gehenna seems much easier. I don't think they kill (as in destroys the heart) the demon because regardless of if Shiratori was possessed by Astaroth or not, the demon came right back. Still, that was in the anime, right? Wasn't it expelled by the verse in the manga and then never heard of again?

(Sorry if I'm wrong; it's been ages since I read the first chapter)
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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #371 on: March 08, 2014, 10:46:54 PM »
It was never heard from again in the manga.

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #372 on: March 08, 2014, 11:10:06 PM »
^I also support the idea that fatal verses just expel demons from Assiah and they get angry because possession is hard etc~
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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #373 on: April 01, 2014, 04:47:37 PM »
Ok, so I was thinking.

Igor Neuhaus is 39, right?

So he must have been like 23-24 when the Blue Night happened.

He said he was possessed by Satan for a short period of time (enough for him to survive having only lost his eye) and that he "lost his family as they approached to try to help" him:

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That Satan murdered his family using his hands:

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And we see that woman giving us her back. And she has curly/wavy hair.

Who else is dead and Kazue designed her with wavy/curly long hair?

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What if... What if Satan raped Yuri using Neuhaus body. She then found herself pregnant  but it didn't cross their mind it was Satan's. But when Rin was born his flames killed Yuri, hence Neuhaus hatred.

-------------- Ok, that was crack as hell.

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Re: Crack theories
« Reply #374 on: April 01, 2014, 04:54:34 PM »
Very cracky o.o
It's possible in a way, yes, but, I think Neuhaus would be dead or at least lose more than an eye.
Aaaaand I don't think I see any of the twins in him (or vice versa).

I just realized how weird it must be to think you kind have two dads.
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