Author Topic: Rin Okumura  (Read 18357 times)

Offline Cloelia

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Re: Rin Okumura
« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2018, 08:54:30 PM »
Cloelia here!

Yup, that's roughly what I theorized too and tried to explain in chapter 98's topic. And I really want to hang to this, 'cause as I said, if this proved correct (somehow, later), I could totally "forgive" Rin. I think, if these can be considered some sorta "further evidences", then we can also take into account some small details to add to this theory: first, Rin starting to "scream" in that "black speech baloons" style. Which, to me, it looked like a weird style choice from the very first moment. I understand the need to emphasize Rin's pain, yet that -dark- background choice... Um. Yeah, I know, this is a poor evidence.

The second one is Rin's whitish eyes in the panel right after he unsheathes the sword and in the first page of chapter 97. Usually, I think that "whitish eyes" style (sorry, dunno how to call it in english) is used to indicate a character is kinda "not himself" during a certain situation, literally or just 'cause of an overwhelming rage 'causing him to act without realizing their actions. But, in Rin's case, now that we met demon!Rin, I wonder if Rin prolly (somehow) in those moments briefly "switched" to his demonic side.

And, connected to this, the third evidence is that it looks like Rin didn't even realize what he did until he took a look at his broken sword. It may look like he didn't realize his actions 'cause he was blinded by his rage, but what if it was demon!Rin the one "in control" all along and human!Rin was put "in the back seat" mode for a bit? So it's not like Rin "blacked out" but prolly he (human!Rin) wasn't -really- him?

And connected to this too, I think this is all possible 'cause, afterall, it started from the moment Rin unsheathed the sword. Yeah, the sword itself isn't Rin's demonic heart, but while it's unsheathed, the connection to it is established. So Rin's demonic side could get a chance to "come into play" taking advantage of this.

Also, I think this all started, as you said, from the moment Rin's suppressed rage toward Yukio reached its peek after all Yukio did/said. I wondered why Rin didn't choose to use his punch instead. But now I think demon!Rin may've been the one to "unconsciously suggest" to Rin to let "him take control" so he (demon!Rin) could be the one to deal with Yukio (since demon!Rin evidentely doesn't like how Rin just takes Yukio shots without reacting) and... he guided him to unsheathe the sword and have a chance to take over for a bit. Poor reasonings and right now I'm not focused enough to explain them better, but I thought about putting these down.
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Re: Rin Okumura
« Reply #91 on: May 06, 2018, 02:28:21 PM »
Honestly, I hope after the Illuminati arc—which seems to focus on almost everyone but Rin—fort their to be a new arc which focuses on Rin and all these questions. Although it does seem like we're nearing the end of the story, I sorta hope there's something more than just the cheerful-happy-go-lucky boy we're seeing.

Not to mention, after the IK arc, Rin hasn't been showing any signs of the feelings he's had when he was stuck in that cell. It really makes me wonder if he did just let them go so easily. We've seen with Yukio that he's always quick to forgive, quick to forget. He doesn't want to create more problems than necessary, so he pushes his own at the back of his mind.

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I guess Rin decided Yukio was innately good so Rin never had to deal with feelings of not being able to catch up to Yukio. Rin doesn't agonize over things he feels he can't control. If Yukio was intrinsically perfect, then it fine that Rin couldn't measure up because Yukio just had those gifts.

But this makes me wonder, even if the author has made it so that Rin seems to be naturally stupid, it could be that he's holding back unconsciously or maybe even intentionally, just like he is with his flames. Although I doubt Rin is as smart as Yukio, it could be possible he's more than he shows. Maybe we'll see with the exorcist exams?

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I've noticed this, too over the last several chapters. Rin can keep his intense and emotional feelings to himself.  He rarely asks people for help or talks out his feelings.  I think that's because he's been suffering so much that he doesn't want others to suffer either, so he focuses on them and tries to bring them up instead.

I like this, although it seems like something Rin would do, I feel like most chapters we've been seeing lately are more of how much the others see Rin. They're focused on their problems and the Illuminati (Which isn't really a bad thing since the world is more or less coming to an end) with all the shi* going on right now, they don't have time to realize or notice much about Rin. They see he's the same person as before so that means he's okay and normal, right? You can't blame them though. Rin himself is putting his problems in the back of his mind so that he could focus on defeating the Illuminati and saving everyone.

The only problem is that, if it is the case, then it would be rather unhealthy for Rin. Now that he's going to the past, I'm hoping we'll be seeing unexpected reactions other than whats expected (shock, sadness etc...) plus, we may see a few of his own flashbacks depending on what he sees. And I also wonder what he's going to do after finding it out? The past is definitely going to be rather dark.

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Re: Rin Okumura
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2019, 05:36:58 AM »
Rin: What will it make if we know!?
Rin: Why do you want to know so much!
In Chapter 90 Rin seems a little insists that they don't have to learn the Yuri's story. Is his response normal, or does he has some reason avoiding this topic?
It occurred to me that seems like we have an answer of this question in the latest chapter. Something we hadn't considered before. Rin killed some exorcists when he was a baby. Probably Rin did consider this possibility way back in chapter 90.

Despite people has less reaction about it, in some moral standard it might be more severe than Yukio joins Illuminati. At least nobody died because of Yukio yet. But Rin was only a baby, not sure how people should regard it ...
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« Reply #93 on: May 19, 2019, 05:04:06 PM »
So now that Rin is a demon king or of similar status, I think we might see more powers and development from him. In terms of power, Lucifer stated that he is the only one present who can fight Rin. It makes sense that at some point Rin would actually not only fight Lucifer but also fight Satan.

I think looking at Rin's symbol that the author drew, we might actually get two kin demons like most demon kings have. The one which was portrayed on the cover of chapter 1 looks like something Rin might be able to summon once he has enough control on his powers or some idea of Gehenna. It might happen that while his heart resided in Gehenna, demon Rin tried to have some grasp over that plane.

Other thing is that Kurikara might become his weapon to channel his power. While he doesn't need it, I think he has learnt to control himself through it well enough so even if demon Rin goes berserk, human Rin might use the sword to control or contain that power.

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« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2019, 11:40:15 AM »
Some comment about Rin in (chapter 114) before we go back to see the blue night. I'm not really satisfied of how Rin's issues were handled in chapter 114. Now Rin explicitly said
a. He suppresses his real self. It's awesome to spread out the flame
b. Yuri and Shiro died because of him
c. Yukio hates him

None of them is really solved with Shiemi's comfort. Hopefully this is not the end of Rin's issues and the author will bring us to a conclusion ...

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« Reply #95 on: April 24, 2020, 03:04:24 PM »
We're finally seeing Rin's reaction! In the last chapter (120) of the past arc, I guess we can conclude that Rin's ultimate fear was that he might be a burden to Shiro.

I'm curious whether his issue can be considered already resolved? While convincing Yukio is also necessary, Rin's constantly self-doubt and lack of confidence have been a recurrent theme of the story, so I'm not sure if this issue is completely resolved in this single chapter.

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« Reply #96 on: June 23, 2020, 02:20:19 PM »
Although Yukio complains Rin isn't listening at all, looks like Rin does understand Yukio's situation more, at least the Satan part.

So ... what would Rin do? People had been commenting that Rin was acting like an idiot or cook instead of a protagonist confronting Satan. Now it's time to see if he can get serious and effectively handle Satan. Or maybe he'll talk to Satan? Knowing the past tragedy, he should has some comments ...

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« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2020, 07:23:32 AM »
Although Yukio complains Rin isn't listening at all, looks like Rin does understand Yukio's situation more, at least the Satan part.

So ... what would Rin do? People had been commenting that Rin was acting like an idiot or cook instead of a protagonist confronting Satan. Now it's time to see if he can get serious and effectively handle Satan. Or maybe he'll talk to Satan? Knowing the past tragedy, he should has some comments ...

Given that he accidentally punched Yukio with such force that would have killed him if he didn't have Satan's protection and only realised the screw up after, it is safe to say he is still acting like an idiot. Also it seems clear he doesn't know about Yukio's current actions in the illuminati but has developed some understanding of Yukio's rebellious thought process and inferiority superiority complex.
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