Shipping Thread!

[Desktop Warrior]

Wasn't that just an excuse? I thought he went on took on that role so he wouldn't have to go with a girl or something.

Did he? Am I not remembering this chapter correctly or something?

He expected Shiemi to choose Rin when he rejected her, right? And cursed himself afterwards. Quite frankly, even if he was going to accept - he'd probably still reject her in any case, I think.

I remember the first part. Not that he cursed himself afterward.

Yeah, I think he'd do the same thing. Seems like both the brothers are planning on backing down if the other seems to be making a move on Shiemi, which will only worsen the tension between them.

Which I personally like, because it means you get to watch a friendship possibly grow into something else, which is better than random crushes go straight to relationship, imo.

Yes, this! It's a very organic, realistic relationship. And who knows? Maybe Shiemi really will end up with someone else. I'd rather not have the predictable Rin/Shiemi outcome, though I don't judge anyone on what they ship.

[themoonlandian]

Wasn't that just an excuse? I thought he went on took on that role so he wouldn't have to go with a girl or something.

Did he? Am I not remembering this chapter correctly or something?

I'm too lazy to check - but from what I can remember since this was done in the regular school thing, he just went and became a volunteer.
I don't think it was mentioned outright, but I'm pretty sure it was kinda implied he did it for that reason (and also probs because of everything that was going on in his mind, as well)

I remember the first part. Not that he cursed himself afterward.

Yeah, I think he'd do the same thing. Seems like both the brothers are planning on backing down if the other seems to be making a move on Shiemi, which will only worsen the tension between them.

That's when Shura came in afterwards and teased him about it.

Depending on the circumstances, really. If it happened soon, then yes, there would be.
If YukiShi happened, I think Rin would be more easygoing on it than Yukio with RinShi happening.

But in the future, it's possible no tension would occur, or little of it, or Yukio would be better about it. (and as you said below, someone else could come into the picture)
Hard to say really.

Yes, this! It's a very organic, realistic relationship. And who knows? Maybe Shiemi really will end up with someone else. I'd rather not have the predictable Rin/Shiemi outcome, though I don't judge anyone on what they ship.

I think a lot of us don't want Rinshi to occur just because it seems to obvious.
I don't judge people who do want it though, either
Hell, I'll read things from all kinds of ships be it I like it or not. (Though, if I really don't like it I'm more likely to avoid it. If it's something I haven't seen yet I try and give it a chance, though.)
Hence even more why I am surprised I got stuck on yer Ridaiin ship.

[ToonamiRaid]

  So I'm new to this lol. I do follow the manga now and I'm all caught up, so spoilers can't hurt me HA! jk jk jk. Anyways...yea RinXIzumo all the way. I used to be RinXShiemi, but it's true from what I read she is basically friendzoning him. Despite what people may say about Yukio, Shiemi is definitely for Yukio. They had more of history with each other before Rin. Plus, yea Yukio's not right in the head right now, but Shiemi has to come to his rescue right? Rin and Izumo actually match all the way, I can tell Rin is going to grow on Izumo by a lot by the end of this recent arc.

[NeeNee]

They do seem to be growing closer, do they?

Of course, becoming friends also means 'growing closer' in Izumo's case, so it doesn't have to mean anything... but I'd definitely give them more of a chance now than before this arc.

Oh, and welcome. ^^

[Anya]

Whoa, Rin/Izumo is actually winning. I didn't think it would happen. The latest arc is very much Izumo and Rin/Izumo centered.

[NeeNee]

^ Me neither.

I wonder if this will actually get us somewhere or if Kazue is just playing with expectations.

[sherripon]

I'm surprised that there are 10 other trolls who voted Arthur/Caliburn as well LOL.

_{Aside from shipping Rin/Yukio} I for one actually think Mephisto/Shura might happen, despite the 200+ age difference lol. But since it's not up there I voted Rin/Izumo (partly because of recent chapters) and Yukio/Shura (seeing Yukio constantly being driven up the wall is hilarious) for the heck of it

Personally I don't think either Rin or Yukio would actually end up with a ship by the end of the series... it'd probably be kinda like a friends forever ending maybe? Rin/Shiemi and Yukio/Shiemi does seem to have the highest possibility so I'm okay if it ends up with either of these pair even though I didn't vote for it (because I'd like to see a twist).

[chinonamida]

For someone who always attempted to prove Izumo liked Rin, I think recent chapters, if anything, will make things worse for a while after this arc. The last progress Izumo made was when Paku told her to be honest with her feelings and she decided to go help Rin at the stand during the festival. But a lot happened since then and I think she'll need some time alone. And what Rin did for her in this arc, he would have done the same for other members of the group given the same circumstances.

[ToonamiRaid]

For someone who always attempted to prove Izumo liked Rin, I think recent chapters, if anything, will make things worse for a while after this arc. The last progress Izumo made was when Paku told her to be honest with her feelings and she decided to go help Rin at the stand during the festival. But a lot happened since then and I think she'll need some time alone. And what Rin did for her in this arc, he would have done the same for other members of the group given the same circumstances.

My dream shipping for this series will for now on be RinXIzumo. You are right things are going to be really awkward after this arc because of what she tried to do. Now about Paku; even before that chapter, I remember she would tease Izumo about Rin and of course she would blush at the thought and they had that instance in the morning when Rin was brushing his teeth. Face it though, with Shiemi; it is a no-no anymore because she obviously has had more history with Yukio and looks up to him since. With Izumo at least from what we read in book 11; there have been also instances where Izumo would kinda get jealous over the fact Rin would try to find a way to ask Shiemi to the dance. Paku telling Izumo to be true with her feelings was the fact that she wanted to be asked to dance or at least be there for someone who she knows needs her. I'm rooting for them lol.

[chinonamida]

You are right things are going to be really awkward after this arc because of what she tried to do.

I wasn't talking about how she turned down everyone's help. She already realized she was wrong about that. I think she won't make the same mistake twice. Next thing she'll do is say sorry and say she won't try to always do everything on her own anymore.

What I was talking about was the things she went through mentally and physically. Mainly the loved ones she lost and the nine tails possession. She'll need some time alone to clear her mind. I don't think she'll be in the spirit for romantic shenanigans.

I'm still rooting for her, just saying the last chapters didn't help; on the contrary.

[ToonamiRaid]

You are right things are going to be really awkward after this arc because of what she tried to do.

I wasn't talking about how she turned down everyone's help. She already realized she was wrong about that. I think she won't make the same mistake twice. Next thing she'll do is say sorry and say she won't try to always do everything on her own anymore.

What I was talking about was the things she went through mentally and physically. Mainly the loved ones she lost and the nine tails possession. She'll need some time alone to clear her mind. I don't think she'll be in the spirit for romantic shenanigans.

I'm still rooting for her, just saying the last chapters didn't help; on the contrary.

It wasn't just her rejecting help, but nobody in the group knew about her history and why she was so persistence to be alone. I mean if you look back when she rejected Rin about the rice ball stand, she says she doesn't trust anyone. It made Rin wonder and asked why she is so stuck up to be alone, especially her moments with Bon. Now that people know her history we don't know if the group will pity her or do what you say leave her alone that way she can have some time alone to think. That's what I meant by how the group is going to be awkward after this arc and knowing Izumo's history.

[chinonamida]

Now that people know her history we don't know if the group will pity her or do what you say leave her alone that way she can have some time alone to think. That's what I meant by how the group is going to be awkward after this arc and knowing Izumo's history.

So you were talking about Izumo's past, and you didn't mean Izumo being awkward with the others but the others being awkward with Izumo.
Though we already saw their reactions to her; Yukio continues to be the detached teacher and exorcist, Ryuuji continues to criticize her and play her academic rival, Shiemi continues to want to be her close friend, Koneko continues to try to make her work with them as a team, and Rin continues to be kind to her in his own way and try to save her like he always try to save everyone. So basically, nothing as changed in the way they want to treat her.

Also, this is the shipping thread and I was talking about Izumo's feelings.
When I said "recent chapters, if anything, will make things worse" and "last chapters didn't help; on the contrary", I meant "recent chapters will make things worse for Izumo to acknowledge her feelings and do something about it".
And when I say "need some time alone", I mean "not in the spirit for romance" (that's what it means where I come from). I don't mean to literally isolate yourself from others. And I never implied "the group will leave her alone so she can have some time to think". And I don't understand why pity should be the opposite of literally leaving someone alone. I don't think the group will leave her alone nor pity her. I Also don't think Izumo wants to be left alone nor pitied. I think (and actually observe, imo) the others will stay by her side and treat her like they always did. And what I think, like I said above, is that Izumo won't think or do anything about her feelings for a while, so she won't try to get into a relationship AKA will need some time alone.
edit: Need some time alone to clear her mind from the painful things she went through mentally and physically.

[SimpleBliss]

I came here to hunt some Rin/Sheimi/Yukio scenes for a friend who watched the anime but wants me to spoil everything in the manga for her (she loves watching those three interact and ships RinxSheimi but isn't a manga person), and I got so engrossed in reading the arguments that I just had to comment.

A lot of what was said is surprising me a lot. I'm just going to comment my own opinion on some of these pairings.

Note though, romance is my least favourite genre and I actually prefer not to ship anybody with anything. This manga is actually the only one that has gotten me mildly interested in the pairings because the characters and interactions are so well done!

RinxSheimi -- Like most people, I wish this didn't happen because it's so obvious, but I can also see it being the most likely pairing mainly because of a few things. Firstly, it's the pairing that has been actively given the most attention by the author, and has had the most blatant statements on. Secondly, the author has clearly stated that Sheimi will mature more and more as the manga progresses, and by the end of it she'll be a completely different person. Maturing might also include her romantic awareness. Also, Rin is the protagonist and obviously has HUGE feelings for Sheimi so I feel like the author might feel the need to put some justice for Rin? Finally, I feel like Sheimi will be a used as a HUGE plot device for Rin later on, especially because he has so many feelings for her, and she might be necessary for him to like, do something to save her or something? He feels more affection for her than he does for anyone in the cram school.
Also, I feel like if it came down to it, he'd save Sheimi over his own brother. (Probably male-protectiveness, feeling like Yukio can protect himself, and he seems closer to her).

YukioxSheimi -- Can't see it happening. I see it being used to show both their developments as characters, but not developing the relationship. Ah, that was worded weirdly...basically, they both started the series having huge admiration for each other (someone put it nicely. Yukio sees a beautiful pure girl, and Sheimi sees a perfect genius). Now, as the series progresses and Rin gets involved, we see this initial "romance" being broken. Sheimi is seeing Yukio's flaws more and more, and Yukio is now actively backing away. He has stated a few times that she "probably doesn't have any other intentions" and stuff. Also, it seems like the only way she is good for him is occasionally making him at peace. He likes talking to her and interacting with her, and spending time with her, but like...as a person, not a girlfriend. She keeps him at peace short-term. With Rin, she can hug him and tell him it's all right, and it will affect Rin. Yukio? He won't let anyone close to him. If he broods, someone like Shura can slap him back into place.

Which brings me to my next one, YukioxShura -- Nope. Brother/Sister, definitely. Never once has he shown any sigh of romantic intent, let alone affection. Shura shows mother-hen concern.

Actually I think Yukio will go bachelor, haha, until the end of the series. Pairing him with someone will take another series in itself, let alone everything we still have to go through to fix him (inferiority complex, self-loathing, burdens, demon taunts, etc.).

IzumoxShima, IzumoxBon and Izumo/Rin -- I'll talk about these together. Izumo is a hard shell to crack. If you look at all her interactions with everyone, she has fought with most people in the series (perks of being a tsundere?). The only person she has given what seems like romantic intent to is Rin. If she felt any affection for Bon or Shima, she would probably soften up a bit for them. She clearly softens up when she starts to like someone (Paku? Sheimi? Rin?), and her shell is extra-hard when she interacts with Shima and Bon. So though not necessarily romantic, she does soften up for Rin a bit, most likely because he is so genuine with her. Same with Sheimi, though that took some effort. But Shima is not genuine at ALLLLLLLLLLLL (SHIMAAAAAAAAAAAAA) and Bon's rough side irritates her sometimes (though she doesn't hate him, I don't think). So if anything, RinxIzumo is most likely (though one-sided, definitely) and the other two I would never give a thought to (funny as they are).

But really, all these statements I'm making I don't feel very strongly about, I'm just making statements out of the blue here

That's all I'll comment on for now, got to go do something. Woah that's still a long response considering how much I don't like romance. Oh well. My two-cents.

[ToonamiRaid]

I came here to hunt some Rin/Sheimi/Yukio scenes for a friend who watched the anime but wants me to spoil everything in the manga for her (she loves watching those three interact and ships RinxSheimi but isn't a manga person), and I got so engrossed in reading the arguments that I just had to comment.

A lot of what was said is surprising me a lot. I'm just going to comment my own opinion on some of these pairings.

Note though, romance is my least favourite genre and I actually prefer not to ship anybody with anything. This manga is actually the only one that has gotten me mildly interested in the pairings because the characters and interactions are so well done!

RinxSheimi -- Like most people, I wish this didn't happen because it's so obvious, but I can also see it being the most likely pairing mainly because of a few things. Firstly, it's the pairing that has been actively given the most attention by the author, and has had the most blatant statements on. Secondly, the author has clearly stated that Sheimi will mature more and more as the manga progresses, and by the end of it she'll be a completely different person. Maturing might also include her romantic awareness. Also, Rin is the protagonist and obviously has HUGE feelings for Sheimi so I feel like the author might feel the need to put some justice for Rin? Finally, I feel like Sheimi will be a used as a HUGE plot device for Rin later on, especially because he has so many feelings for her, and she might be necessary for him to like, do something to save her or something? He feels more affection for her than he does for anyone in the cram school.
Also, I feel like if it came down to it, he'd save Sheimi over his own brother. (Probably male-protectiveness, feeling like Yukio can protect himself, and he seems closer to her).

YukioxSheimi -- Can't see it happening. I see it being used to show both their developments as characters, but not developing the relationship. Ah, that was worded weirdly...basically, they both started the series having huge admiration for each other (someone put it nicely. Yukio sees a beautiful pure girl, and Sheimi sees a perfect genius). Now, as the series progresses and Rin gets involved, we see this initial "romance" being broken. Sheimi is seeing Yukio's flaws more and more, and Yukio is now actively backing away. He has stated a few times that she "probably doesn't have any other intentions" and stuff. Also, it seems like the only way she is good for him is occasionally making him at peace. He likes talking to her and interacting with her, and spending time with her, but like...as a person, not a girlfriend. She keeps him at peace short-term. With Rin, she can hug him and tell him it's all right, and it will affect Rin. Yukio? He won't let anyone close to him. If he broods, someone like Shura can slap him back into place.

Which brings me to my next one, YukioxShura -- Nope. Brother/Sister, definitely. Never once has he shown any sigh of romantic intent, let alone affection. Shura shows mother-hen concern.

Actually I think Yukio will go bachelor, haha, until the end of the series. Pairing him with someone will take another series in itself, let alone everything we still have to go through to fix him (inferiority complex, self-loathing, burdens, demon taunts, etc.).

IzumoxShima, IzumoxBon and Izumo/Rin -- I'll talk about these together. Izumo is a hard shell to crack. If you look at all her interactions with everyone, she has fought with most people in the series (perks of being a tsundere?). The only person she has given what seems like romantic intent to is Rin. If she felt any affection for Bon or Shima, she would probably soften up a bit for them. She clearly softens up when she starts to like someone (Paku? Sheimi? Rin?), and her shell is extra-hard when she interacts with Shima and Bon. So though not necessarily romantic, she does soften up for Rin a bit, most likely because he is so genuine with her. Same with Sheimi, though that took some effort. But Shima is not genuine at ALLLLLLLLLLLL (SHIMAAAAAAAAAAAAA) and Bon's rough side irritates her sometimes (though she doesn't hate him, I don't think). So if anything, RinxIzumo is most likely (though one-sided, definitely) and the other two I would never give a thought to (funny as they are).

But really, all these statements I'm making I don't feel very strongly about, I'm just making statements out of the blue here

That's all I'll comment on for now, got to go do something. Woah that's still a long response considering how much I don't like romance. Oh well. My two-cents.

Man, I used to be on the ShiemiXRin express when I first got into the series, but seeing the small quirks Kazu does for Izumo and Rin, I hope she does something for them; organically of course.

Those two are similar and I feel by the end of the series, Shiemi will be the top of her class. So, that's why I'm hoping Kazu works here way with those two, I see the potential and of course Izumo has been my favorite character in the series after Menifesto. Can't wait for more.

[Ncf]

I´ve always shipped IzumoXRenzo
I think the one Rin will go after is Sheimi, plot wise is the one that makes more sense, to deepen the rift between Yukio and the Rin and leading to the Yukio going dark, as we know it will happen