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Offline NeeNee

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Chapter 39 Discussion
« on: October 05, 2012, 12:04:06 AM »
Chapter 39 came out earlier this week. For now, we've only got the Chinese scans and an extended summary (by RocksNBlocks on MF):
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So it looks like Mephisto is even more important than we anticipated. Not that it makes the school any safer... I wonder what this whole "Seven Mysteries" thing is all about? And if we'll see more students getting involved.

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The English version is out.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2012, 01:58:25 PM by NeeNee »

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 09:45:24 PM »
My theory is that what happened to Godaiin was planned by Mephisto. That's how he knew of Rin's request - he wanted Rin to do whatever he tells him in order to help his friend. Notice how smoothly it went, even though minutes before Rin tried to attack Mephisto and then had his backside owned by Amaimon, released by Mephisto.

So I think the Seven Mysteries are something Mephisto controls, and it's somehow connected to Godaiin's father, the Governor, whoever he is.

It's possible that Russian Gehenna Gate may be just another scheme by Mephisto, because it's too convenient that all exorcists, including Rin's both guardians, are out of the school when something attacks the students and the son of satan is forced to do whatever he's told by a demon of questionable reputation.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 04:16:18 AM »
^ I think Mephisto is just all-knowing, being the ruler of time and space and all. Especially when it comes to things happening in his school.

Though I wouldn't put it beyond him to pull a stunt like that. But he said Godain was just the beginning, so either he is pulling something much bigger than duping Rin, or there really is some sort of attack from Gehenna going on.

As for the gate, while I can see Mephisto using demons to lure exorcists away, why would he place it all the way in Russia? I never believe they'd send Yukio down there (he's not that important, unlike Shura), and we've seen before that he has ways of getting demons inside the school without anyone noticing.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 05:19:01 AM »
Personally, I have absolutely no clue what Mephisto is up to.

Like NeeNee, I believe that him being the one that controls time and space, he just knows everything, kind of like a Time Lord (Warning: I know nothing about Dr. Who except bits and pieces that Whovian friends of mine have tried to explain to me), and how they don't see time as a lineal thing but as a clot of stuff happening at one moment and he just decides to pay particular attention to it.

He definitely knows where this whole demon-eater deals is gonna go to, he knows how it's gonna end and he probably knows every decision our heroes will make in the way to make that end happen, and he simply won't do anything to stop it. We just don't know what is that result, and what side he is truly on.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 06:09:52 AM »
It's possible that Russian Gehenna Gate may be just another scheme by Mephisto, because it's too convenient that all exorcists, including Rin's both guardians, are out of the school when something attacks the students and the son of satan is forced to do whatever he's told by a demon of questionable reputation.

I am also expecting Mephisto has most of this planned, but, can he open a gate to Gehenna??

Though that gate doesn't look like the one from the first chapter. So Mephisto being ruler of space and time, might have been able to open that one.. like a warp portal between dimensions.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 03:57:06 PM »
^ No, only Satan is able to make Gehenna Gate. The Gate's size, appearance and abilities change depending on the properties ande the amount of blood used in making it. Also, the Gehenna Gate in chapter 39 looks human made, so I doubt Mephisto made it.
(Anyone else find it funny that the Gehenna Gate is actually a demon?)

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 02:30:32 PM »
First, I'm so glad Amaimon is back. I've missed him.

I've think about that Lightning guy. I like him in some way but could it be he is a demon? He has unusual bright eyes (demonlike).
http://mangafox.me/manga/ao_no_exorcist/v08/c039/36.html

And did you know the "Seven Mysteries" are mentioned in the second Drama CD, too?
http://yoshi-x2.livejournal.com/15224.html

(In case you are wondering, sorry for my english. I'm german)

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 02:47:45 PM »
I've think thought about that Lightning guy.
That's the only mistake I could find. Your English is great, Paradox.

I'm Belgian, btw. ^^

But I don't think he's a demon. They probably just draw his eyes like that to make them stand out beneat the hat. It was kinda the same with Urahara from Bleach (it's clear where Kazue got her inspiration again ::)).

Someone should make a topic about the drama CD's.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 05:07:56 AM »
Come to think of it, this gives a whole new dimension to the trial, doesn't it?

There's no way the Order could kill Mephisto even if they wanted to.
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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 08:42:16 AM »
^ All the more reason not to trust him.
But I'm not really sure the Order knows he's actually a King. He has been using the name 'Mephisto' for about 200 years. That's the same time he joined the order.
Would the Order really let him join if they knew who he was?

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 11:30:11 AM »
So by theory, Mephisto is fantastic...

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 09:40:12 PM »
If the Order doesn't know about him being a king, then telling Rin wasn't a good idea, was it? Even if Rin can keep secrets, he's got other priorities and would tell Yukio, Kyoto trio or Shura if he thought it was necessary. I think it's another "open secret" for important members of the Order.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 10:51:50 PM »
^ I wonder if Angel knows.

I was kinda hoping Rin would find out by Angel saying something like "You and your traitorous brother won't get away with this!", with Rin wondering what he has against Yukio for a while and then realising that that wasn't about Yukio at all. It's kinda disappointing that he just told him instead. :(

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 11:19:01 PM »
Come to think of it, this gives a whole new dimension to the trial, doesn't it?

This pun.

I like it.

Wait, who said anything about the Order killing Mephisto? You can't kill Mephisto, that's against the rules of, like, the universe.

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Re: Chapter 39 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 11:32:39 PM »
^ Given how trigger-happy they were about Rin, I'd be surprised if that wasn't the stake of the trial.

I mean, what else are they gonna do? Banish him? Yeah, that's gonna help against someone who has crossing dimensions as a job description.