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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Blue Exorcist In-Deep Analysis (chp.1-88)
« on: April 11, 2017, 03:25:06 PM »
Ah yes, that's a lot easier to scroll through.

Though I think "Exorcist exam arc" is a bit misleading of a name, since we still haven't seen any exam yet.

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Blue Exorcist In-Deep Analysis (chp.1-88)
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:47:41 AM »
- random note, again. This Godaiin guy from regular high school courses who pops out every now and then starting from this chapter... can we expect some twists out of him in the future?  (pag. 9)
Many people thought so at first, but right now it looks like he's gonna be as important as Paku (occassionaly recurring named character, so to speak).

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- the "Seven Mysteries" rumor began to spread right after summer holidays were over. Coincidence or Mephisto's doing? (pag. 11)
I think you can safely assume that everything that happens in the school is Mephisto's doing (or at least happening with his knowledge).

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- the objective of the Illuminati's research on the Elixir is to prepare a body for Satan. (pag. 21)
I wonder if this was the original objective, or if Lucifer just doesn't want daddy to steal his stuff again.

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Chapter 65:
- and btw, it's never explained why Shima is capable to summon Yamantaka and/or use the black flames, it seems though the Illuminati picked him as a spy cause of this ability of his. Does he possess some special trait or something? (pag. 12)
Didn't they show in a flashback that Yamantaka took a liking to him? Or am I misremembering that part?

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- Shima offers Yukio an advice and tells him to speak about "it" (guess he means the "eyes" question oc) to someone. Is Shima offering this advice on his own or has he been ordered to by Lucifer? (pag. 26)
Pretty sure it was an order, since they don't actually want Yukio to tell anyone and I don't think Shima would take the risk to screw things up on his own accord.

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- I have a feeling the guy under the bridge is Todo. (pag. 35)
Unlikely. We can see his ears and they look human (unless Toudou has found a way to revert back to his human state?).

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Blue Exorcist In-Deep Analysis (chp.1-88)
« on: April 09, 2017, 10:49:13 PM »
- Now there's a piece of panel I find kinda intriguing and enigmatic. Yukio is reminiscing the moment Fujimoto proposed him to become an exorcist, back when he was a kid. Fujimoto uses this weird sentence: "In 10 years time, your brother will witness something far more frightening." (meaning something far more frightening than Yukio seeing demons). Now, since Yukio stated he began his exorcist training at the age of 7 and, as of chapter 88, Rin and Yukio are about to turn 16, then Fujimoto was referring to something which should be about to happen in a yr or so starting from chapter 88's happenings (and, guess what, if you take a look at chapter 49's notes... could that be related to what Fujimoto was referring to?... coincidence?). So... ok, but, how can Fujimoto know what's going to happen in the future? In short: WTF?!? (pag. 51 and pag. 52)
I don't remember where it was said, but apparently Shiro thought Rin's power would awaken around his 17th birthday. Instead it happened a year early, which is probably why they suddenly had to rush.

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- After having a conversation over the phone with Yukio, Mephisto states that "It won't be long before SATAN makes HIS move." (talking to himself) Ok, is this happened so far? I can't think of anything right now. (pag. 54)
I'm assuming Satan decided to hold off after Mephisto offered him a deal ('I'll raise the boy to reach his full potential, you just wait a bit')

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Chapter 3:
- One note, in this chapter it is stated that all of the exorcists (referring to the ones who "worked" in Suguro's  temple in Kyoto) died in the Blue Night while they were there, in the temple. (pag. 22) It is also shown in a panel that Tatsuma's father died there. (chp. 25 - pag. 1) However, later on it's stated that all of the exorcists who died during the Blue Night should've been located only in Section 13 (or Asylum). (chp. 84 - pag. 31) So this parts sounds a bit off to me.
It states that all the powerful exorcists of the temple died, not all of them. A few pages earlier they also mention that the Blue Night killed a huge number of exorcists all over the world, so clearly it wasn't limited to one place. My guess is that the Asylum is where the first possession happened, and then after that Satan went on a little rampage trying to find another suitable body.

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- at the end of the chapter, Neuhaus states that he's a demon's dog. He seems to imply he became one as if that was the last option left to him after failing to achieve something. About the demon, was he talking about Mephisto or someone else? (pag. 45)
Never seen that translation, but it's assumed he was working for Mephisto at the time.

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- Rin asks Neuhaus not to involve innocent people in his revenge. Strangely enough, Neuhaus is taken aback by this request and quietly accept it, even though I find it weird he'd do this, since in the past his own -innocent- family was killed and, usually, someone in his situation would just retort something like: "My wife was innocent too! Yet Satan, a demon, killed her! Then why do I have to agree to what you're asking me and spare innocent people?" (pag. 38)
Neuhaus doesn't want to become like Satan, he considers himself a Good Guy fighting the Bad demons. When the Bad Guys you're fighting are suddenly more concerned with human life than you are, it tends to make you question what you're fighting for.

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- After this, Neuhaus says: "There's an other guy... Who's like me... You should prepare yourselves!" Ok, who is this guy? He's appeared yet? (pag. 38)
Probably a mistranslation. The official version says "There will be others like me", which basically just means that there are more people out there who might have a problem with his ancestry. (Like for example half of the teachers.)

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- How come Rin could use the same words (more or less)/act the same way Shiro did in the past to calm Kuro down?  (pag. 35 and pag. 37)
Similar personality?

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Chapter 9:
- Amaimon gets Rin angry at himself for taking away his sword. Rin tries to attack him and unintentionally decapitates a Mephisto's statue. Amaimon points out that that was "his brother's" neck he just broke. Has somehow Rin suddenly turned deaf when Amaimon makes it clear that Mephisto is his brother? Why Rin fails to catch that line of info? I don't think Rin can be considered THAT retarted (wait, I may be wrong (chp. 11 - pag. 11)) (pag. 19)
Rin has a tendency to miss stuff like that in the heat of the moment. That or he assumed Amaimon was speaking methaphorically or something.

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Chapter 10:
- In Shura's flashback, Fujimoto asks Shura to teach Rin how to use a sword. He doesn't use any "In case..." or "If one day...", he just plain requests for Shura to teach Rin swordmanship, leading to think he knew 100% for sure the seal on Koma sword was going to break/Rin was going to awake at his powers. (pag. 15)
Shiro was always expecting Rin's powers to awake one day, so yeah.

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- And btw is it ever explained why or how Rin can somehow still use some of his flames even when the Koma sword is not unsheathed? (pag. 21)
He could do that from chapter 1. Something about his power growing too strong for the seal.

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Ao-no-Exorcist/Chapter-001?id=283242#30

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- random note about this side chapter. Rin tells Yukio that if he doesn't help people (as an exorcist), he'll become a demon himself (meaning that not helping people is something devilish, not that Yukio would actually become a demon). Foreshadow? (pag. 30)
Nah. Just an in-your-face explanation of how Rin defines his humanity right now.

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Chapter 24:
- now for the enigmatic part I didn't quite understand. Yukio reads the whole Tatsuma's letter to Rin and Shura. Do the three of em (or at least only Yukio and Rin) fail to understand the part where Tatsuma is talking about Fujimoto and the latter states he was after the Koma Sword so to use it to kill some kids? Wouldn't this part strike some curiosity into the brothers? Couldn't the kids that Fujimoto was going to kill with the swords be, well, THEM? I don't get why at least Yukio wouldn't rise a question mark to this. (pag. 37)
Didn't Yukio repeatedly ask "For what purpose were we raised"? That means he must since long have considered the possibility of them NOT getting raised, right? I don't think this was anything outside his expectations.

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- Fujimoto "steals" the Koma sword months before the Blue Night. It's not stated how many months though. (pag. 35 and pag. 39)
- Anyway, how is Tatsuma aware that Rin is indeed the kid that Fujimoto wanted to kill? The first time he heard Rin state his name, he instantly guessed  it was THAT kid. (chp. 18 - pag. 18)
He guessed it was Fujimoto's kid, probably because the latter wrote him or something. We have no proof he knew Rin was the kid that was supposed to get killed.

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Chapter 27:
- during the fight against the Impure King, Yukio hears the noises around him as they're coming from far away, as they're not even real. Is this related to what is about to happen to him? Like a "sympthom"? (pag. 38 and pag. 39)
No. It's a symptom of mental shock. Yukio has been in shock since he heard Rin was about to be executed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_stress_reaction

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Chapter 28:
- I don't fully consider Todo's implication at Fujimoto raising Yukio as a tool to specifically protect Rin just a ploy he uses to provoke Yukio. It rather sounds like Todo trying to kinda "open" Yukio's eyes (he may know more than it seems). It may be my impression though. (pag. 27)
To someone like Toudou, it does not matter if something is true or not, as long as he can use it.

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Chapter 30:
- Yukio "calls for Rin" in his mind. Rin seems to "hear" him. (pag. 2) Telepathy? Or did Rin merely "sense" him as he usually does for any regular demon? (for example: chp. 36 - pag. 14, chp. 49 - pag. 2, chp. 49 - pag. 23 and chp. 54 - pag. 31)
Both? Rin can talk telepathically with demons, and Yukio was kind of a demon at that point, so...

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Chapter 35:
- random note, as Tatsuma tells Rin he can count on him in case he needs help with the Koma Sword in the future, he adds that he considers Rin just as a great man as Fujimoto. Yukio is watching the scene from a distance wearing a weird look over his face. (pag. 6)
Third hint of Yukio being a jealous piece of shit.


Well, that's quite enough for today. How long did you take writing all that?

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Chapter 89 discussion (raws)
« on: April 06, 2017, 12:03:31 PM »
^ It is, isn't it? I'm not surprised about the exwires not asking (do they even know Satan killed Shiro?), but you'd think the Order might want to look into the death of the freaking Paladin a little more than "Woops, he's dead. Looks like possession by an incredibly powerful demon. Happens all the time, no need to question the witnesses."

... Unless of course Mephisto hid the fact that Rin was present or involved at all. That sounds like something he'd do.
Agree.
After they find out that Rin is son of the Satan. A lot of stuff happed. I think they just don't have time or they forgot about it.
We aren't even sure if Mephisto himself knows what happened in the night. Although he can see everything without actually being there, maybe he has to know in advance something is going to happen so he can use the ability at the exact time and location.

But Mephisto heard about it from Satan, didn't he? If he knows Satan possessed Shiro in order to kidnap Rin and that Shiro killed himself, I'm pretty sure he can draw his conclusions from that.

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Blue Exorcist dreams
« on: April 06, 2017, 07:49:35 AM »
Then, Rin goes to his first meeting with the Angelic Guard and when Arthur arrives (last) he unveils a giant chalkboard that is covered with a multicoloured sketch with a ton of arrows and exclamation marks and is titled: "HOW WE WILL SAVE THE WORLD BY DESTROYING THE GEHENNA GATE (because f*ck Mephisto)"

This is so totally Angel. Even writing the 'f*ck Mephisto' part on there instead of just thinking it.

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Chapter 89 discussion (raws)
« on: April 06, 2017, 07:40:26 AM »
^ It is, isn't it? I'm not surprised about the exwires not asking (do they even know Satan killed Shiro?), but you'd think the Order might want to look into the death of the freaking Paladin a little more than "Woops, he's dead. Looks like possession by an incredibly powerful demon. Happens all the time, no need to question the witnesses."

... Unless of course Mephisto hid the fact that Rin was present or involved at all. That sounds like something he'd do.

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Chapter 89 discussion (raws)
« on: April 05, 2017, 01:48:57 PM »
And he's right. The twins were a product of cloning. They were meant to be vessels for Satan and whatever other demon king involved. And given that Rin was told directly by Satan himself, who was the reason behind his father's death and right in front of his eyes no less, that they were made on a whim would cause anyone trauma.

Half of the world's population was made on a whim (or at least not planned for). I think he'd be more upset hearing that they planned to use them as vessels from the start.

Then again, he already knows Satan wants his body for that purpose. Yukio on the other hand might have serious trouble coping if they ever find out.


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BTW, SATAN SAID THAT HIS (MY) FLAMES KILLED HER. I WOULD RATHER NOT HEAR ABOUT HOW I BURNED MY MOTHER TO DEATH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Seriously, why is everyone so surprised about Rin's attitude? That meeting with Satan was obviously very traumatic and hearing that about his mom can't have helped. I'm not surprised at all that this is a topic he'd rather not talk about (but of course Yukio doesn't have this knowledge, since it doesn't seem like Rin ever told him. He's still avoiding the subject).

That's a good point. Now I wanna see Rin play the I Met Our Biological Dad Once And It Sucked card in this argument:

"But we don't even know where we came from or why we're here. Aren't you curious about-" "WELL SATAN SAID HE MADE US ON A WHIM, JUST LIKE CREATED OUR FAMILY AND THEN TORE IT APART, ALL FOR SH*TS AND GIGGLES, SO THERE'S THAT"

I wanna see Satan possess some other guy, Yukio being scared out of his mind (as one would be), and Rin just walking up and beating the shit out of him.

"My son-" *punch*
I've been waiting- *kick*
You should join- *wham*
WOULD YOU STOP- *slams into the opposite wall*

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Chapter 89 discussion (raws)
« on: April 05, 2017, 02:28:47 AM »
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So you really weren't paying attention in court. I guess he was preoccupied with having his foot cut off.

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BTW, SATAN SAID THAT HIS (MY) FLAMES KILLED HER. I WOULD RATHER NOT HEAR ABOUT HOW I BURNED MY MOTHER TO DEATH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Seriously, why is everyone so surprised about Rin's attitude? That meeting with Satan was obviously very traumatic and hearing that about his mom can't have helped. I'm not surprised at all that this is a topic he'd rather not talk about (but of course Yukio doesn't have this knowledge, since it doesn't seem like Rin ever told him. He's still avoiding the subject).

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Other Media / Re: Blue Exorcist Merchandise
« on: April 05, 2017, 01:54:07 AM »
Did Kuro eat something very, very wrong or is that a character from one of her other manga?

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Forum Games / Re: Hurt/Heal Game Second Round
« on: March 12, 2017, 02:10:45 PM »
Heal Liu +2 because he's the only moderately good thing to come out of that movie.

Rin Okumura +31
Shiemi Moriyama +29
Ryūji Suguro +30
Izumo Kamiki +30
Renzō Shima +21
Konekomaru Miwa +30
Nemu Takara +27
Noriko Paku +27
Godaiin +32
Yukio Okumura +30
Shirō Fujimoto +34
Mephisto Pheles +30
Igor Neuhaus +27
Shura Kirigakure +30
Arthur Auguste Angel +30
Yuri Egin +30
Saburōta Toudou +35
Lightning +37
Lucy Yang +32
Drac Dragulesc +34
Osceola Redarm +31
Kuro +30
Nii-chan +30
Uke and Mike +30
Ucchusma + 30
Yamantaka +30
Cheng-Long Liu +17
Tatsuma Suguro +30
Yaozō Shima +30
Jūzō Shima +30
Mamushi Hōjō +32
Kinzō Shima +30
Uwabami Hōjō +30
Amaimon +24
Lucifer +15
Boss Lady +27
Maria Yoshida +32
Tamamo Kamiki +30
Tsukumo Kamiki +30
Hachirou +27

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Blue Exorcist (Manga) / Re: Random stuff you noticed
« on: February 20, 2017, 05:48:46 PM »
It happens sometimes with links that are several years old.

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Forum Games / Re: Hurt/Heal Game Second Round
« on: February 13, 2017, 10:08:38 PM »
Hurt Shima for being a treacherous piece of shit -3

Rin Okumura +31
Shiemi Moriyama +27
Ryūji Suguro +30
Izumo Kamiki +30
Renzō Shima +24
Konekomaru Miwa +30
Nemu Takara +30
Noriko Paku +30
Godaiin +32
Yukio Okumura +30
Shirō Fujimoto +34
Mephisto Pheles +30
Igor Neuhaus +30
Shura Kirigakure +30
Arthur Auguste Angel +30
Yuri Egin +30
Saburōta Toudou +35
Lightning +35
Lucy Yang +30
Drac Dragulesc +34
Osceola Redarm +30
Kuro +30
Ukobach +24
Nii-chan +30
Uke and Mike +30
Ucchusma + 30
Yamantaka +30
Usamaro +27
Cheng-Long Liu +30
Tatsuma Suguro +30
Yaozō Shima +30
Jūzō Shima +30
Mamushi Hōjō +32
Kinzō Shima +30
Uwabami Hōjō +30
Amaimon +27
Lucifer +27
Boss Lady +27
Maria Yoshida +32
Tamamo Kamiki +30
Tsukumo Kamiki +30
Reiji Shiratori +27
Yoshikuni XI +9
Hachirou +27

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Forum Games / Re: Hurt/Heal Game Second Round
« on: February 13, 2017, 12:26:01 PM »
Hurt Reiji Shiratori -3

Rin Okumura +31
Shiemi Moriyama +30
Ryūji Suguro +30
Izumo Kamiki +30
Renzō Shima +27
Konekomaru Miwa +30
Nemu Takara +30
Noriko Paku +30
Godaiin +32
Yukio Okumura +30
Shirō Fujimoto +34
Mephisto Pheles +30
Igor Neuhaus +30
Shura Kirigakure +30
Arthur Auguste Angel +30
Yuri Egin +30
Saburōta Toudou +35
Lightning +35
Lucy Yang +30
Drac Dragulesc +34
Osceola Redarm +30
Kuro +30
Ukobach +24
Nii-chan +30
Uke and Mike +30
Ucchusma + 30
Yamantaka +30
Usamaro +27
Cheng-Long Liu +30
Tatsuma Suguro +30
Yaozō Shima +30
Jūzō Shima +30
Mamushi Hōjō +32
Kinzō Shima +30
Uwabami Hōjō +30
Amaimon +27
Lucifer +27
Boss Lady +27
Maria Yoshida +32
Tamamo Kamiki +30
Tsukumo Kamiki +30
Reiji Shiratori +27
Yoshikuni XI +12
Hachirou +27

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Forum Games / Re: Hurt/Heal Game Second Round
« on: February 04, 2017, 12:05:17 PM »
Hurt Boss Lady 3x

I never liked her.
I also find it hilarious she's still being referred to as 'Boss Lady'.

Rin Okumura +30
Shiemi Moriyama +30
Ryūji Suguro +30
Izumo Kamiki +30
Renzō Shima +30
Konekomaru Miwa +30
Nemu Takara +30
Noriko Paku +30
Godaiin +30
Yukio Okumura +30
Shirō Fujimoto +32
Mephisto Pheles +30
Igor Neuhaus +30
Shura Kirigakure +30
Arthur Auguste Angel +30
Yuri Egin +30
Saburōta Toudou +32
Lightning +32
Lucy Yang +30
Drac Dragulesc +32
Osceola Redarm +30
Kuro +30
Ukobach +30
Nii-chan +30
Uke and Mike +30
Ucchusma + 30
Yamantaka +30
Usamaro +30
Cheng-Long Liu +30
Tatsuma Suguro +30
Yaozō Shima +30
Jūzō Shima +30
Mamushi Hōjō +30
Kinzō Shima +30
Uwabami Hōjō +30
Amaimon +27
Lucifer +30
Boss Lady +27
Maria Yoshida +30
Michael Gedōin +15
Tamamo Kamiki +30
Tsukumo Kamiki +30
Ernst Frederik Egin +15
Reiji Shiratori +30
Yoshikuni XI +30

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Forum Games / Re: Hurt/Heal Game Second Round
« on: February 04, 2017, 08:41:54 AM »
I have no idea who he is, but I'm giving Drac Dragulesc 2 points just for that name.

Rin Okumura +30
Shiemi Moriyama +30
Ryūji Suguro +30
Izumo Kamiki +30
Renzō Shima +30
Konekomaru Miwa +30
Nemu Takara +30
Noriko Paku +30
Godaiin +30
Yukio Okumura +30
Shirō Fujimoto +32
Mephisto Pheles +30
Igor Neuhaus +30
Shura Kirigakure +30
Arthur Auguste Angel +30
Yuri Egin +30
Saburōta Toudou +32
Lightning +32
Lucy Yang +30
Drac Dragulesc +32
Osceola Redarm +30
Kuro +30
Ukobach +30
Nii-chan +30
Uke and Mike +30
Ucchusma + 30
Yamantaka +30
Usamaro +30
Cheng-Long Liu +30
Tatsuma Suguro +30
Yaozō Shima +30
Jūzō Shima +30
Mamushi Hōjō +30
Kinzō Shima +30
Uwabami Hōjō +30
Amaimon +27
Lucifer +30
Boss Lady +30
Maria Yoshida +30
Michael Gedōin +18
Tamamo Kamiki +30
Tsukumo Kamiki +30
Ernst Frederik Egin +15
Reiji Shiratori +30
Yoshikuni XI +30

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