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Title: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: IsmihanA on March 01, 2018, 03:19:20 PM
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5572654178

Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: ekaterina on March 01, 2018, 03:26:24 PM
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IS MEPHISTO SENDING RIN TO THE PAST???
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Megamadic on March 01, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
somehow I know we wouldn't get all the answers from this chapter, excuse me while I crawl under my table and cry for another month.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on March 01, 2018, 03:30:41 PM
Really? Beyond the Snow Part 8-a? When will this chapter title end?
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on March 01, 2018, 03:34:00 PM
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IS MEPHISTO SENDING RIN TO THE PAST???

I think Mephisto is simply showing Rin what happened through that opening. There's no door to go through, so I'm guessing he's not going to the past with a key.

Edit: Sorry, he already opened the set of doors with the vanishing key, so I think that he is going to the past, or at least going to view it from a third person perspective.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: AlienGirl on March 01, 2018, 03:43:10 PM
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IS MEPHISTO SENDING RIN TO THE PAST???

It would seem so.

A chapter without answers as we had thought... Oh no, I can't wait another month until the chapter 100 ! T_T
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Megamadic on March 01, 2018, 03:52:30 PM
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IS MEPHISTO SENDING RIN TO THE PAST???

It would seem so.

A chapter without answers as we had thought... Oh no, I can't wait another month until the chapter 100 ! T_T

Yeah actually it makes sense that everything will go down in Chapter 100
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cherub on March 01, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
IT WONT OPEN GAAAHHH
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 01, 2018, 03:58:59 PM
GOTTA GET BACK

BACK TO THE PAST

SAMURAI JACK RIN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4xppqJZs4M)
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on March 01, 2018, 04:11:31 PM
Hmmm..if Rin's going back to the past, I hope he doesn't do anything to change it or interact with anyone from there. It would impact the future tremendously. 
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
Interesting chapter, I don't understand Japanese but I think Mephisto didn't say anything about the secret behind Rin's and Yukio's birth. Instead, he gave him the key and told him to discover it himself? Rin is desperate and Mephisto is trolling him, as expected (ugh that clown -_-). I see, many people start to notice demons, Lightning comments on it and Osceola tries to keep the situation under control just like Shura. Shura's like 'Aghh Mephisto do something about this barrier dammit !!XD' Aww poor thing, I feel sorry for her. Looks like Angel has a problem, I guess it won't be good ... Mamushi takes care of Juuzo's security aww they're so sweet !!<3 It seems that Exwires are ready to go somewhere (probably help with the situation) and they asked Izumo to check on Shiemi's condition. Izumo is bashful hhahah!XD They don't seem to know anything about Rin yet. I can't wait for someone to post the translation! This is so exciting !!^^

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IS MEPHISTO SENDING RIN TO THE PAST???

This would be really cool!!XD
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 01, 2018, 04:15:58 PM
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY, HOLD ME DOWN! Rin in exorcist uniform is the MOST beautiful thing EVER! Argh, chapter 100 can't come out any soon! But I'm glad we got to at least see him (those 3 spoiler pics made me worry big time). YES, the moment of truth is behind the corner for real NOW. Please, just be it!

So it's not the same key Mephisto gave to Lightning to go to S13/Asylum. It really must be the PAST itself. I sense a veeeeery long journey it's about to begin! And it'll feel more realistic with Rin "experiencing" it like he's in there. He may meet their mom face to face! Again, this somehow feels like the anime when Satan showed Yukio the past through his eyes/mind. Now it's Rin's turn!

And I'm curious about the title too. We get no Yukio again but apparently this arc is contuining. Part 8-A?! No, wait, what? I'm too excited! Aww!!!
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: AlienGirl on March 01, 2018, 04:21:07 PM
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Rin is so cute with the exorcist's uniform. ^^

Hmmm..if Rin's going back to the past, I hope he doesn't do anything to change it or interact with anyone from there. It would impact the future tremendously. 

I can't read Japanese but I wonder if Mephisto didn't warn him about this ?
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: JanellaBround on March 01, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
Why do we have to wait another month to know the truth? That is playing with my mental health ...

Takara appeared (he was not seen since the party Christmas, oh dear you remember those happy times ??) is it me or Takara is smiling with the news of invasion of the demons? (That's creepy)
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 01, 2018, 04:31:25 PM
Those gloves Rin is wearing. Are they gonna travel to a cold place? *gonna calm down, don't mind me, it's just the excitment*
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 04:38:56 PM
It seems that the chapters 'Beyond the snow' will be divided into parts 8 -a, -b, -c ... I wonder how far it will go.

Again, this somehow feels like the anime when Satan showed Yukio the past through his eyes/mind. Now it's Rin's turn!

Good contrast with which Kato-sensei managed to surprise us. Now she'll be able to show us better how this all went down in the past. I hope Yuri and Rin will have a similar conversation as Naruto and Kushina when they first met, it will be such a heartwarming moment.<3 Then Rin could tell Yukio what his mother told him and Yukio would calm down. I think that will be the moment when Yukio will regret everything he has done so far and he will want to go back to Rin and others.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 01, 2018, 04:40:54 PM
^ Their birth happened in late December, so it makes sense.

BUT TSUKUMO.

TAKARA.

OLD LADY FEEDING DEMON KITTY.

THE US PRESIDENT.

*faints of overload
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Stella96 on March 01, 2018, 04:45:07 PM
It seems that the chapters 'Beyond the snow' will be divided into parts 8 -a, -b, -c ... I wonder how far it will go.


Omg another month no please D:

But well, it’s better to wait a bit more and have an entire chapter explanation.
I found weird the title too...“part 8 A”  are you serious?
But then I thought it could has sense if Kato wanna stay in the same Day and Time for some chapters but with different points of view.
This can give us an idea of what’ll happen in this volume
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 04:46:04 PM
@earthforge IKR, the scene was really creepy. Takara smiling ?! That guy is very odd, rather suspicious I would say...-_-
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 04:52:19 PM
But well, it’s better to wait a bit more and have an entire chapter explanation.
I found weird the title too...“part 8 A”  are you serious?
But then I thought it could has sense if Kato wanna stay in the same Day and Time for some chapters but with different points of view.
This can give us an idea of what’ll happen in this volume

Or it may be that Kato has no inspiration about the names for different chapters, so she marks them with numbers.XD
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: ekaterina on March 01, 2018, 04:54:34 PM
Takara appeared (he was not seen since the party Christmas, oh dear you remember those happy times ??) is it me or Takara is smiling with the news of invasion of the demons? (That's creepy)

I always had a crack theory that he was a Baal.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 04:56:28 PM
^Hahhhha I don't know but it may be possible!^^
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 01, 2018, 04:56:32 PM
But well, it’s better to wait a bit more and have an entire chapter explanation.
I found weird the title too...“part 8 A”  are you serious?
But then I thought it could has sense if Kato wanna stay in the same Day and Time for some chapters but with different points of view.
This can give us an idea of what’ll happen in this volume

Or it may be that Kato has no inspiration about the names for different chapters, so she marks them with numbers.XD

What if Kato starts doing Roman numerals. "Beyond the Snow 8(a)-i", "Beyond the Snow 8(a)-ii"...

My god. She'll be on the level of my quantum mechanics instructor from two years ago. Every problem had ten subparts, and those subparts had four subparts and... *physics PTSD-ing intensifies*
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: chinonamida on March 01, 2018, 04:59:25 PM
somewhat paraphrasing

part 1
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Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 05:02:13 PM
@earthforge You had it hard, ah yea congrats on passing!^^
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Stella96 on March 01, 2018, 05:02:48 PM
Hahahahaha best part would be our disscusions “ OMG and did you remember what happened during chapter 99-part A part ivx?
Sure related to chapter 99-part-E-iv”

Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 01, 2018, 05:04:44 PM
somewhat paraphrasing

part 1
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*slams hands on the keyboard*

THIS.

 For once, I'm on Mephisto's side. But now I'm even more shet worried about Yukio. THANK YOU a bunch for the translation, chinonamida!
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 05:06:04 PM
Mephisto: The reality Okumura-sensei has to see, unfortunately, isn't in the past.

That's true, Yukio has to think about his future! Poor guy ...
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: spicychickendeluxe on March 01, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
somewhat paraphrasing

part 1
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*slams hands on the keyboard*

THIS.

 For once, I'm on Mephisto's side. But now I'm even more shet worried about Yukio. THANK YOU a bunch. chinonamida!

This right here for some reason made me satisfied with this chapter. I wasn't disappointed or anything in the first place.Just not what I was expecting, but I am okay with all this.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 01, 2018, 05:12:39 PM
Mephisto: The reality Okumura-sensei has to see, unfortunately, isn't in the past.

That's true, Yukio has to think about his future! Poor guy ...

*sudden thought* Wait, but that's EXACTLY what Lucifer is about to do. He will tell Yukio about his -past-. Yukio's power/potential is connected to the mystery behind his birth, so it's in the past. But based on Mephisto's comment... Okay, now I'm really confused.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 05:15:03 PM
^I wonder if Lucifer will show Yukio his future!(in Illuminati)XD
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Mojo on March 01, 2018, 05:18:26 PM
Lol Aurthur is still fighting demons off, can't deny the guy is a great paladin. I might be forgetting things or maybe the in-manga time was actually short but wasn't he fighting non-stop since the second impure ming encounter? He's a beast.

The tension is pretty high, isn't it? It almost feels like a final arc of some sort and I really hate the idea that BE would end so fast. I think there's so much potential to this manga and although some people may dislike Katous pacing style, I personally find it essential for twists to be relevant. You don't want to end up like Dongaropa
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 01, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
Mephisto: Look, the world fell into chaos becaus I failed. We must do something to counter this.

!!!

This is big. How did he fail? How does he expect Rin to fix it? How does his failure presumably tie back to the hidden birth?

Mephisto: This is a parting gift. If you put on the hood, it has the same effect as the camouflage poncho.

Parting gift... Like, just for this journey? Or is this some last gift to Rin? I'm actually worried... about Mephisto.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 05:29:27 PM
^Mephisto doesn't want to return the barrier because he wants Rin to save the world and that higher-ups could no longer condemn him for being Satan's son. Mephisto's actually doing it for his benefit.

Nah, I don't think it would be Rin's last uniform. I think Mephisto sends him in the name of the True Cross. As their savior or something... So they could say that the True Cross also saved the world (it would be a good reclamation- it was same with Shura).
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Stella96 on March 01, 2018, 05:32:58 PM
Mephisto: Look, the world fell into chaos becaus I failed. We must do something to counter this.

!!!

This is big. How did he fail? How does he expect Rin to fix it? How does his failure presumably tie back to the hidden birth?

Mephisto: This is a parting gift. If you put on the hood, it has the same effect as the camouflage poncho.

Parting gift... Like, just for this journey? Or is this some last gift to Rin? I'm actually worried... about Mephisto.

Okey then I’m not the only one who see some kind of sadness in his eyes

(https://images2.imgbox.com/54/86/RhJtDGRJ_o.jpeg)
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 01, 2018, 05:38:33 PM
^Aww Mephisto being worried about Rin, so sweet!^^ Now he knows how it was to Shiro all these years!
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 01, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
The tension is pretty high, isn't it? It almost feels like a final arc of some sort and I really hate the idea that BE would end so fast. I think there's so much potential to this manga and although some people may dislike Katous pacing style, I personally find it essential for twists to be relevant. You don't want to end up like Dongaropa

I don't think this is the final arc. The main tension is focused on the world going to hell, but the other plot threads are not at high tension yet. Rin's demon half has just been introduced as a longterm threat. Yukio's slide into becoming a monster has only just begun. Shiemi's secret is yet to be discussed.

The manga might not end with the world getting destroyed or saved. If Rin can go back and change the past, that might mean Rin can prevent the events that led to the Gate either being formed or the seal being broken. That'll stop the world from falling into chaos.

It's like the second-to-final act in Bioshock Infinite, where your player character is sent to the future, sees the world being destroyed, and gets sent back to the present with a warning and a hint (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxbdIaNsEyg&t=1m3s). Or like "Crack in the Slab" in Dishonored 2, where you can go between the past and the present in a mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwT6yGFRIe0), and use that to avoid detection.

Since Rin has to hide his demon heart and is in disguise as an exorcist complete with a camo poncho, I think he can interact with the past. Will he be tempted to stop things from happening? Like, could he prevent Shiro from dying? Could he stop Yukio from leaving? Or will he have to prioritize the world?

I could be babbling about things that won't happen. Kato might just be using this key to show Rin the past, and the world will have to live with the merging of dimensions. But... there are so many possibilities right now. So, very, many.

All I know is, this is not the end.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: facets-and-rainbows on March 01, 2018, 06:30:01 PM
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Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: chinonamida on March 01, 2018, 06:31:45 PM
part 2
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Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 01, 2018, 06:36:04 PM
-IT IS MY DEEPEST REGRET TO INFORM YOU ALL THAT BLUE EXORCIST WILL BE ON HIATUS NEXT MONTH
-WHYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyy T-T

Aw poop.

Well, was expecting that sooner or later. I thought it was gonna be this month.

Renzou: The branch office is in panic. I'll go to help them.

*psst I think you mean Juuzou, not Renzou.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: chinonamida on March 01, 2018, 06:41:21 PM
Mephisto: This is a parting gift. If you put on the hood, it has the same effect as the camouflage poncho.

Parting gift... Like, just for this journey? Or is this some last gift to Rin? I'm actually worried... about Mephisto.
Ah, sorry. He said "senbetsu", which is a type of gift people give to someone going on a trip. It doesn't mean anything bad for neither of them and it doesn't mean they won't see each other again.

Renzou: The branch office is in panic. I'll go to help them.

*psst I think you mean Juuzou, not Renzou.
Sorry, I messed up again. lol
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 01, 2018, 07:35:10 PM
-The kamikakushi key apparently is just like, a master key that lets its owner go to whatever dimension they feel like, through any door (Rin is a bit miffed about not being told this earlier)

Okay, so that was the real use of the key and not as Shiro told Rin to hide anything anywhere? Did Shiro lie? Anyway, I'm curious about this: "Go to wherever you want/feel like." What point of the time will Rin choose to visit? Right before he and Yukio were born or a lot earlier than that?
 
-Mephisto is like here have some sweet new clothes for your trip, it's like a camouflage poncho only cooler
-I assume that Rin either won't be able to interact with the past because he's camouflaged, or maybe it's just like an offshoot timeline that can't affect the present, I just kinda get the sense that he'll only be able to look and not alter anything.

I don't know, if Rin won't be able to interact with the past, why give him a poncho to hide himself? The impression I got is that he COULD interact with people if he WANTED to but Mephisto left the choice to Rin. Wonder if he's gonna make the correct ones. But if Mephisto didn't tell him nothing, I guess he trusts Rin will.

Also, I think this adds to the theory that Mephisto has been planning all the happenings so far using his time powers. What if he could do that and did it all the time so far? He traveled back to the past, saw what happened and in the present timeline changed/set things around to have some events happen the way he wanted.

-Day 2 of everything being chaos

D-day 2? So we did indeed get a time skip? Has Rin started traveling in the past already? How does this shet even work? Will he take a tour of a few hours but it will last for days in the present timeline? No, wait, I don't like this kinda things, too complicated.

-Konekomaru is going to Kyoto to bring them the Koumaken : o

So it will indeed be Tatsuma the one to repair it I guess.

-IT IS MY DEEPEST REGRET TO INFORM YOU ALL THAT BLUE EXORCIST WILL BE ON HIATUS NEXT MONTH
-WHYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyy T-T

Oh!... Sweet! After one whole month waiting for nothing colossal to happen, not to mention TWO FREAKING MONTHS WITHOUT SEEING YUKIO, I'm totally in the mood to NOT get chapter 100 in 30 days and to NOT get any Yukio for a total of 4 months from now.

I'm gonna survive, I swear, but if Kato-sama is really going to have Yukio pop up again in 24 chapters from now (2 FREAKING YEARS OF RL TIME), I'm not.

Hold on a sec. Doesn't Kato-sama usually take her month break on June or July? If she's taking a hiatus now DON'T TELL me she's gonna take one again during this year? I mean, I understand she overworked this last month and all that and she needs (DESERVES) some rest, but...
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Mojo on March 01, 2018, 07:49:26 PM
The tension is pretty high, isn't it? It almost feels like a final arc of some sort and I really hate the idea that BE would end so fast. I think there's so much potential to this manga and although some people may dislike Katous pacing style, I personally find it essential for twists to be relevant. You don't want to end up like Dongaropa

I don't think this is the final arc. The main tension is focused on the world going to hell, but the other plot threads are not at high tension yet. Rin's demon half has just been introduced as a longterm threat. Yukio's slide into becoming a monster has only just begun. Shiemi's secret is yet to be discussed.

The manga might not end with the world getting destroyed or saved. If Rin can go back and change the past, that might mean Rin can prevent the events that led to the Gate either being formed or the seal being broken. That'll stop the world from falling into chaos.

It's like the second-to-final act in Bioshock Infinite, where your player character is sent to the future, sees the world being destroyed, and gets sent back to the present with a warning and a hint (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxbdIaNsEyg&t=1m3s). Or like "Crack in the Slab" in Dishonored 2, where you can go between the past and the present in a mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwT6yGFRIe0), and use that to avoid detection.

Since Rin has to hide his demon heart and is in disguise as an exorcist complete with a camo poncho, I think he can interact with the past. Will he be tempted to stop things from happening? Like, could he prevent Shiro from dying? Could he stop Yukio from leaving? Or will he have to prioritize the world?

I could be babbling about things that won't happen. Kato might just be using this key to show Rin the past, and the world will have to live with the merging of dimensions. But... there are so many possibilities right now. So, very, many.

All I know is, this is not the end.
Now that you mention that, the possibility of Rin having to  make a choice between stabilizing the current state of the world or saving shirou can make for some great drama and character development for him. I mean this is his one and only chance, he could either fix Mephistos mistake saving his friends and the world in the long run (this might not be very bad rught now, but  considering even  Aurther is struggling, I'd say humans have little to no chance in fighting this off) or save Shirou which would change Yukio and possibly many other things about their relationship.

It sounds cliche but it honestly works in my head. Naked Rin emphasizes that Rin continues to seek change when he isn't that way deep inside, choosing his current life over another with Shirou and Yukio (as a doctor probably) would give weight to his statement about his 16 years of living being his. Not to mention this could also build another conflict point between him and Yukio in their next meeting as I feel like Yukio would pick the reset button if it existed.


Yeah I'm not saying  it'll end, just that it feels like it. But like you said there are couple of otger unexplored plot points for it to finish anytime soon. Still, ever since the Inari arc I feel like the plot has been moving noticeably faster.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Megamadic on March 01, 2018, 08:05:00 PM
-IT IS MY DEEPEST REGRET TO INFORM YOU ALL THAT BLUE EXORCIST WILL BE ON HIATUS NEXT MONTH
-WHYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyy T-T

*breathes* (http://nooooooooooooooo.com/)
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 01, 2018, 08:18:48 PM
Now that you mention that, the possibility of Rin having to  make a choice between stabilizing the current state of the world or saving shirou can make for some great drama and character development for him. I mean this is his one and only chance, he could either fix Mephistos mistake saving his friends and the world in the long run (this might not be very bad rught now, but  considering even  Aurther is struggling, I'd say humans have little to no chance in fighting this off) or save Shirou which would change Yukio and possibly many other things about their relationship.

As I said, I don't know, could it be possible that Mephisto gave such a freedom to Rin? To change the past as he likes? Than what would've Mephisto been working that hard to make things go the way they did for if Rin could just screw all that in a sec?
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: facets-and-rainbows on March 02, 2018, 04:31:58 AM
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As I said, I don't know, could it be possible that Mephisto gave such a freedom to Rin? To change the past as he likes? Than what would've Mephisto been working that hard to make things go the way they did for if Rin could just screw all that in a sec?

I think it'd be pretty stupid, not just for Mephisto but for ANYONE who has known Rin for more than about two minutes, to send him back in time unsupervised if there was ANY POSSIBILITY that he could change ANYTHING. Mephisto doesn't seem in the mood to deal with Rin accidentally preventing his own birth or whatever. And Rin would. Rin might do that on purpose depending on how things went down.

Also I was looking at the raws again and I noticed that one of the people on the #howtofightdemons tag on twitter is saying "Hit them with a Bible!" and I think that's just the greatest thing.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 02, 2018, 05:17:24 AM
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As I said, I don't know, could it be possible that Mephisto gave such a freedom to Rin? To change the past as he likes? Than what would've Mephisto been working that hard to make things go the way they did for if Rin could just screw all that in a sec?

I think it'd be pretty stupid, not just for Mephisto but for ANYONE who has known Rin for more than about two minutes, to send him back in time unsupervised if there was ANY POSSIBILITY that he could change ANYTHING. Mephisto doesn't seem in the mood to deal with Rin accidentally preventing his own birth or whatever. And Rin would. Rin might do that on purpose depending on how things went down.

Yeah, you're right. Giving Rin the power to change the past is like handing a lightning rod to a toddler.

Augh, but why does Rin have to be in-disguise... Does Mephisto just like playing dress-up?

Also I was looking at the raws again and I noticed that one of the people on the #howtofightdemons tag on twitter is saying "Hit them with a Bible!" and I think that's just the greatest thing.

Let's be honest. If there really was an invasion of demons, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BKivJ89xAE) would be spammed all day on Twitter.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Stella96 on March 02, 2018, 06:58:59 AM

Also I was looking at the raws again and I noticed that one of the people on the #howtofightdemons tag on twitter is saying "Hit them with a Bible!" and I think that's just the greatest thing.

Let's be honest. If there really was an invasion of demons, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BKivJ89xAE) would be spammed all day on Twitter.

And this  xD
(https://images2.imgbox.com/95/6d/nZjZiL58_o.gif) (http://imgbox.com/nZjZiL58)

Maybe it’s a stupid question, but why Rin has now 2 keys? One is the vanishing key, but the other ?

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/22/37/zdWkTPeV_t.jpeg) (http://imgbox.com/zdWkTPeV)
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on March 02, 2018, 08:04:23 AM

Also I was looking at the raws again and I noticed that one of the people on the #howtofightdemons tag on twitter is saying "Hit them with a Bible!" and I think that's just the greatest thing.

Let's be honest. If there really was an invasion of demons, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BKivJ89xAE) would be spammed all day on Twitter.

And this  xD
(https://images2.imgbox.com/95/6d/nZjZiL58_o.gif) (http://imgbox.com/nZjZiL58)

Maybe it’s a stupid question, but why Rin has now 2 keys? One is the vanishing key, but the other ?

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/22/37/zdWkTPeV_t.jpeg) (http://imgbox.com/zdWkTPeV)

Cram school key I think.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Natsume Rin on March 02, 2018, 10:16:19 AM
*dies laughing* Ah, this is great! Of course, Mephisto is the King of Time and I never anticipated time travel.
Kato is going full Samurai Jack on us and it's glorious
All the talk about the reset button gave me serious Evillious Chronicles vibes... What's next, Rin and Yukio are Irregular twins and have to perform a Re_Birthday to save the world? Wait they ARE Irregular, born from an impossible pregnancy...
With the new key, I can already see the fanfics popping up
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: earthforge on March 02, 2018, 05:08:25 PM
Man, I'm still trying to digest how the Kamikakushi key works and how it might affect the plot. Bliss was right, it's turning out to be hella important. Ow, my brain...

I'm relieved this chapter had Mephisto say why he helps Rin and not Yukio. My explanation was wrong but I definitely prefer how Katou explained things.

Cool that Mephisto refers to both twins by their humanity in this chapter. Rin averted his eyes from the reality of the past. So Rin must confront that reality directly and see things as they were. This makes sense, as Rin has been a strong believer of living in the moment. He relied on others to handle information about the past that he didn't want to think about.

Even now, Rin says he would prefer letting Yukio learn about it. I guess that's part of how he thought they were always a team: he could be the fast-reaction brute force guy, while Yukio could be the thinking precise action guy. But that reliance allowed him to get away with not facing things that were difficult for him. It's like letting your sibling do all your math homework while you do all your sibling's history homework. Seems to work at first but in the end weakens you both.

The situation is forcing Rin to address his weakness and grow as a person. However, Rin hasn't recognized that he must do this for himself, not for Yukio. If Rin keeps charging in with the intent to sacrifice himself to save Yukio, he will fail every time.

Rin has to become a complete person. As he is now, he is literally split between human and demon hearts. We don't know how real the split is. Are they truly separate souls? Or are they separate because Rin does not accept his own self?
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: IsmihanA on March 02, 2018, 05:30:10 PM
So ...first of all, I’m impressed by the idea of traveling to the past as a way to show the secret ( unexpected but very nice move, Kato-sensei). In my opinion, so-called „oral message” from Mephisto, don’t supported with any visual images would not fulfill its function, it would be too ... barren?; I do not know exactly how to determine it. Also the idea of going to any place/dimension that the owner of Master Key would choose is extremely interesting and dangerous solution so at the same time I'm full of black scenarios and bad feelings that for nothing in the world don’t want to leave my thoughts (because positive thinking is too mainstream).
Generally speaking (on the one hand) this chapter made me feel really sad especially because of the dialogue between Rin and Mephisto ( big thanks to chino and facets for your translations and additional thank you for chino for getting rid of my worries about Mephisto with that „senbetsu” explanation, seriously it was a huge relief) and the part referring to Yukio and his desire to know about theri birth…it hurts. Also seeing Takara trying to contact Rin and terrified Tsukumo in her „mother's „ arms hit me quite strong, not to mention Shiemi and ,, Yuki-chan, he is not here anymore…right?” (T.T).
But I think that this chapter is the perfect silence before the storm which will be chapter 100. It is true that I had somewhere in the back of my head that, despite everything, we will receive at least a small part of explanations or some kind of introduction, for example, a shot from which basic explanations will begin, but nevertheless I more definitely expected that nothing like that will happen, so I’m not surprised. I'm not disappointed either – Rin looks more than awesome in Exorcist uniform, seeing Mephisto, I asked the same question again : damn Mephy why are you so hot? (especially the last two pages before the half-black one with the title of the chapter), Shura is back, Shiemi seems to be alright without any serious injuries and of course I'm soo glad that I could see Angel again. And…WTF Lightning?!
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Gem-Bug on March 02, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
Ahehehehehe, friggin' Bogeyman: "H-h-h-hey kid, wanna play t-t-t-tag???"  ;D
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: annie10 on March 02, 2018, 11:57:38 PM
What is happening Lightning's Hair? He looks like chewbacca.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 03, 2018, 01:40:50 AM
^It seems that Angel had ordered him to cut off his hair because no one should have such a fabulous hair like himself! Jelly Angel!!XD
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Hiikarinn on March 03, 2018, 03:18:46 AM
Am I the only one who is pretty nervous about sending rin who still might not be completely stable from going beserk back to the past? Am I the only one getting blue knight vibes here? What if something happens and run ends up being the one who caused it not Satan? What a twist that would be especially to the rest of the students. Don't think tht will be likely to happen but the possibility is there
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: tandem on March 03, 2018, 05:31:08 AM
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As I said, I don't know, could it be possible that Mephisto gave such a freedom to Rin? To change the past as he likes? Than what would've Mephisto been working that hard to make things go the way they did for if Rin could just screw all that in a sec?

I think it'd be pretty stupid, not just for Mephisto but for ANYONE who has known Rin for more than about two minutes, to send him back in time unsupervised if there was ANY POSSIBILITY that he could change ANYTHING. Mephisto doesn't seem in the mood to deal with Rin accidentally preventing his own birth or whatever. And Rin would. Rin might do that on purpose depending on how things went down.

Yeah, you're right. Giving Rin the power to change the past is like handing a lightning rod to a toddler.
-Mephisto is like here have some sweet new clothes for your trip, it's like a camouflage poncho only cooler
-I assume that Rin either won't be able to interact with the past because he's camouflaged, or maybe it's just like an offshoot timeline that can't affect the present, I just kinda get the sense that he'll only be able to look and not alter anything.

I don't know, if Rin won't be able to interact with the past, why give him a poncho to hide himself? The impression I got is that he COULD interact with people if he WANTED to but Mephisto left the choice to Rin. Wonder if he's gonna make the correct ones. But if Mephisto didn't tell him nothing, I guess he trusts Rin will.

Also, I think this adds to the theory that Mephisto has been planning all the happenings so far using his time powers. What if he could do that and did it all the time so far? He traveled back to the past, saw what happened and in the present timeline changed/set things around to have some events happen the way he wanted.
If Rin tries to prevent his own birth, despite it contradicts his determination to face truth in chapter 98 and it will also prevent Yukio's birth, it's essentially a variation of the grandfather paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox). There are some explanations of this paradox, and I prefer to think whatever time travelers do they just can't change history.

I actually think that's what Mephisto wants to show Rin. Like you said, Rin is willing to sacrifice everything in the current time to prevent Shiro's death. If Mephisto only explained it to Rin, it's difficult to convince him why it has to be that way. So Mephisto give him a poncho to hide and let Rin freely do whatever he wants, including trying to change the past. Then whether Rin makes correct or wrong choice, success or fail, he'll find the history inevitable turns back to the same. That will be the ultimate way to prove that the current situation is an unavoidable destiny

-Day 2 of everything being chaos

D-day 2? So we did indeed get a time skip? Has Rin started traveling in the past already? How does this shet even work? Will he take a tour of a few hours but it will last for days in the present timeline? No, wait, I don't like this kinda things, too complicated.
Until now it's still simple : Day 1 is January 2nd; Day 2 is January 3rd. So the end of this chapter (Day 2 morning) should be several hours later than Rin left
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: snow on March 03, 2018, 08:18:15 AM
Now that you mention that, the possibility of Rin having to  make a choice between stabilizing the current state of the world or saving shirou can make for some great drama and character development for him. I mean this is his one and only chance, he could either fix Mephistos mistake saving his friends and the world in the long run (this might not be very bad rught now, but  considering even  Aurther is struggling, I'd say humans have little to no chance in fighting this off) or save Shirou which would change Yukio and possibly many other things about their relationship.

As I said, I don't know, could it be possible that Mephisto gave such a freedom to Rin? To change the past as he likes? Than what would've Mephisto been working that hard to make things go the way they did for if Rin could just screw all that in a sec?
what if mephisto (and maybe even shiro???) did meet rin in the past and mepphy is sending rin to the past because he first met rin in the past??? (kinda like in kamisama kiss)
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on March 03, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
^ I'm currentely typing down a theory about this 'cause I got that feeling as well. I'll explain it better there.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Madow on March 03, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
Am I the only one who is pretty nervous about sending rin who still might not be completely stable from going beserk back to the past? Am I the only one getting blue knight vibes here? What if something happens and run ends up being the one who caused it not Satan? What a twist that would be especially to the rest of the students. Don't think tht will be likely to happen but the possibility is there

I would absolutely LOVE this, if he saw Satan massacring all the people, he would attempt to fight Satan and end up going full demon himself. Like you said, very, very unlikely but it's a cool thought
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on March 03, 2018, 06:20:21 PM
Now that you mention that, the possibility of Rin having to  make a choice between stabilizing the current state of the world or saving shirou can make for some great drama and character development for him. I mean this is his one and only chance, he could either fix Mephistos mistake saving his friends and the world in the long run (this might not be very bad rught now, but  considering even  Aurther is struggling, I'd say humans have little to no chance in fighting this off) or save Shirou which would change Yukio and possibly many other things about their relationship.

As I said, I don't know, could it be possible that Mephisto gave such a freedom to Rin? To change the past as he likes? Than what would've Mephisto been working that hard to make things go the way they did for if Rin could just screw all that in a sec?
what if mephisto (and maybe even shiro???) did meet rin in the past and mepphy is sending rin to the past because he first met rin in the past??? (kinda like in kamisama kiss)

I often did wonder how the twins ended up with Okumura as a family name. God, paradox....
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Khalumia on March 03, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
On the time travel paradoxes and possibilities, I wonder if Mephisto seemed all-knowing from the beginning because he really knew what was going to happen up until a certain point? If Rin tells past!Mephisto about who's in his class, when he awakened, what events he lived (like IK, Illuminati), Mephisto would do anything to get to the "present" that Rin knows, because it seems like a great chain of events (having Rin ready to fight, a potential very good team to back him up, etc). He would know about the events (not precisely, but vaguely) and the last thing he would have learned about was that he sent Rin to the past. I just don't like the idea that he can see into the future with 100% accuracy, or at all. It would be way too overpowered to have this ability.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: MetallicArcher on March 03, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
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Are Takara's eyes open? Is he supposed to be with the rest of his family?

Also, so glad to see Katou still remembers Paku exists. From time to time I worry she will just vanish from the story alltogether.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: HorseTechie on March 04, 2018, 05:35:54 AM
Before all of the other theories, I was wondering if it would be like with the Scrooge story. Scrooge was taken back in time by the ghost of Christmas past to see his life from other people's angles... but he could not interact even when he tried.  So there could be that way also (as boring as it may sound!)

But I can understand why Memphisto would prefer this way since he's much too busy to be chatting with Rin. 

In fact, I thought of this as a more constructive way of keeping Rin 'confined', and out if the picture while the other exorcists/exwires regrouped and moved forward with the rest of the damage control measures.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: tandem on March 06, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Are Takara's eyes open? Is he supposed to be with the rest of his family?

Also, so glad to see Katou still remembers Paku exists. From time to time I worry she will just vanish from the story alltogether.
I guess Takara went home after Christmas party, which explains why he didn't got to Kyoto with them and why he's absent in previous chapters. I don't see any difference in his eyes or expression.

I wonder what Paku will do. In the anime only ending they did give her some plot
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: Kannra21 on March 07, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
^Takara's a shady guy. I think he's possessed by this puppet he's holding on his hand. That's why he looks so loose and lifeless and his puppet so energetic. Do you remember the moment when Takara opened his eyes for the first time? His puppet was alarmed and began to speak weird things like "Go to sleep Takara, go to sleep...". Yup, he's definitely possessed.

As for Paku, she is more of a side character and doesn't represent anything specific in the plot. She only exist as a proof that Izumo has a friend. Think about it, if Paku didn't exist. Izumo would be lonely and possibly have a mental breakdown.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
Post by: tandem on March 22, 2018, 11:44:06 PM
^But it's strange that Paku has been listed on the character profile pages in recent volumes. It's possible she's not only a support character.

Takara is suspicious as always, but I don't see any notable difference in this chapter.

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Rereading this chapter, I find it strange that despite we see Shura, Arthur, Lightning, Osceola coping with current situation, we still don't see Drac. What is he doing now? We also don't see Grigori. Even the politicians and religious leaders are making statements, but they don't show up and give orders.
Title: Re: Chapter 99 RAW
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