The Blue Knight

Blue Exorcist => Blue Exorcist (Manga) => Topic started by: IsmihanA on July 01, 2017, 03:53:04 PM

Title: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: IsmihanA on July 01, 2017, 03:53:04 PM
At the end of this list chapter 92  :)

https://manaa.space/work/WRZgPBzjNRz4Jxn3#
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 01, 2017, 04:06:01 PM
Shura and Lightning fighting side-by-side!

Oh boy. That face. Don't anyone fuck with Yukio. He cray-cray.

Lightning getting Renzou to pop out is amazing.

Yukio... is gonna really lose it next month.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: facets-and-rainbows on July 01, 2017, 04:11:09 PM
Sweet lemme just summari- IT'S IN KOREAN MY POWERS ARE USELESS

Welp time to learn Korean so I can read what's happening between Yukio and Lightning because I really wanna know.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 01, 2017, 04:26:55 PM
Sweet lemme just summari- IT'S IN KOREAN MY POWERS ARE USELESS

Welp time to learn Korean so I can read what's happening between Yukio and Lightning because I really wanna know.

Haha, inorite. The actual raws are nowhere to be found. Still, there is a tumblr post linked here (http://ao-no-exorcist-blog-blr.tumblr.com/post/162469404369/ecassandrae-why-does-lightining-tell-yukio-i) looking at the scene where Lightning talks to Yukio:

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Why does Lightining tell Yukio “I like sushi a lot 0147AAA”?

*scrolling down*

Ah. It’s the password to the pen drive he gives him with the secrets files he’s unfolded concerning their birth.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 01, 2017, 04:28:06 PM
The demon is unexpectedly powerful  :o

But I am not sure whether it is defeated???
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Stella96 on July 01, 2017, 04:42:01 PM
OMG what could contain this USB?
Maybe all the information about his researches...  ???
And why has the arc knight from the Mexican branch caught Lightning? :O
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on July 01, 2017, 04:58:52 PM
Poké-battle!

Loving it. Poor Lightning getting arrested, and of course the cruel cliffhanger!
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: gokusdonut on July 01, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
My crack ship fought side by side, yes!

This was a very Yukio-centric chapter and I love it. Lightning is very quickly moving up the ranks as one of my favorite characters. I'm curious to see all the information he uncovered concerning the twins' birth. Also, I'm pretty sure Lightning is being summoned/arrested on account of what he did to Drac. The Mexican guy is apart of the Arc Knights, after all.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 01, 2017, 05:11:16 PM
Why did Lightning feel the need to give Yukio what they knew about his birth? I guess it was because Yukio threatened Bon, but wouldn't giving Yukio that knowledge just make him more determined to find out how he and Rin were born? Yukio's got some serious expressions in this chapter.  :o

Shura and Lightning fighting the Cyclops was pretty cool, though I'm a little disappointed that the exwires didn't do any fighting. What were the other exorcists fighting after the Cyclops was defeated? Smaller demons?

I wonder how the trial will go for Lightning. He probably expected to be arrested, and will expose Drac at the trial. Still curious about that mark around his neck. I think the Grigori will be very interested in what Lightning has to say.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Mayhem950 on July 01, 2017, 05:15:27 PM
the chapter looks super interesting and I can hardly wait for the translation!

also in terms of the raws not being the japanese ones, pretty sure the reason the Japanese raws aren't up instead is because it's actually set to be released on the 4th in Japan IIRC, so if I'm right then they should be up as well in a few days.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: IsmihanA on July 01, 2017, 06:14:07 PM
OMG what could contain this USB?
Maybe all the information about his researches...  ???
And why has the arc knight from the Mexican branch caught Lightning? :O

I also wonder what is on this USB ( need 93 chapter right now )... But I think that giving Yukio all the information that he and Bon had found during the investigation is too simlpe, I mean, so immediately?
And about this Mexican guy, probably Drac was faster and reported Lightning first   :-\
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Stella96 on July 01, 2017, 06:35:17 PM
OMG what could contain this USB?
Maybe all the information about his researches...  ???
And why has the arc knight from the Mexican branch caught Lightning? :O

I also wonder what is on this USB ( need 93 chapter right now )... But I think that giving Yukio all the information that he and Bon had found during the investigation is too simlpe, I mean, so immediately?
And about this Mexican guy, probably Drac was faster and reported Lightning first   :-\

Hmm maybe the USB contains big news about their birth but not all his research... I mean, something important that could keep Yukio entertained while Lightning keeps investigating (if he can after this arrest)
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 01, 2017, 07:09:55 PM
Sweet lemme just summari- IT'S IN KOREAN MY POWERS ARE USELESS

Welp time to learn Korean so I can read what's happening between Yukio and Lightning because I really wanna know.

Don't worry, we still love you! (just 3 nanoseconds before I read your comment I was wondering to myself: "Facets knows Korean, right?")


Try to give Cloelia a heart attack -> Show her BE chapter 92 -> You're doing it right
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 01, 2017, 07:42:56 PM
I think the key to understanding Lightning's plan is knowing what he said to Renzou and Bon.

My bet is that Lightning is setting Yukio up. Lightning's gotten all the information he needs from the files. He's now divulged them to Yukio as a way of finding corroboration. Whatever Yukio does next, it'll probably reveal new information.

By giving the Yukio the drive before he was taken away, Lightning has allowed this scenario to play out while he is busy handling his arrest by the True Cross Order. Best case for Lightning, this provokes an incident at the True Cross branch that gives Lightning leverage in making his case that there's a spy in their ranks.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: NeeNee on July 01, 2017, 09:15:00 PM
- So a monster is attacking and... are they just going home, or did Yukio just ditch everyone to go fight it by himself?
- Rin looks like he is noticing something. Such a rare sight to behold.
- That's a great idea, annoy the fuck out of the laserbeam shooting monster. Is this a new type of creature or have a whole bunch of exorcists not done their research?
- Lightning... what are you doing?
- Those two are sort of alike and yet total opposites. Yukio can't stand guys like that.
- Um, Lightning? You're looking kind of scary there.
- Um, Yukio? You're looking kind of scary there.
- Shima still can't decide if he wants to be comic relief or a serious threat.
- How does the Order still exist when everyone is so utterly incompetent at their job? Don't allow the criminal to hand over evidence to his allies during his arrest, geez.
- Yukio looks so startled at Lightning suddenly helping him. I wonder if Lightning was planning to give him the info or if it's just because he's the only person around who won't squeal.
- Poor Bon, always too late.
- They better give us some real revelations next chapter and not just 20 pages of Yukio freaking out over some unseen info.

Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Rook on July 01, 2017, 09:35:54 PM
Could someone summarise what happened in the chapter? I just scrolled through the images since I'm not bilingual in the slightest, so a summary would be super helpful. Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 01, 2017, 09:47:47 PM
- They better give us some real revelations next chapter and not just 20 pages of Yukio freaking out over some unseen info.

Am I the only one who wouldn't complain if that'd actually happen? (just kidding, oc. I wouldn't want that either. But I wouldn't mind something along the lines of: Yukio finds the coordinates of where the Dominus Liminis is actually located, infos on how to break inside it, manages to get there, goes berserk to Todo, the unnamed woman, Lund, Strom, the entire Illuminati crew then to Lucifer until he beats the truth about his origins, his eyes and his potential out of him, he threatens to sprout his ego (?) in a fit of rage, gets somehow reached by Rin, Shura, Shiemi and all the exwires while he's on the verge of annihilating both Assiah and Gehenna, then lots of screaming, crying, punches and hugs until he snaps out of it, he reconciles with his brother and finally recovers from his identity crisis, inferiority complex and everyone lives happily ever after while Satan and Mephisto who are staring at the scene from the distance break down in a fit of laughter and... huh? What did ya say? Too much to fit only 36 pages or too good to be possible?)

Don't mind me, I lost some sleep lately and I don't know what I'm talking about  ;D

Edit: W-w-wait... Don't tell me that Yukio looked so "startled" the moment Lightning approached him to give him the usb pen because he... slipped it somewhere near his holster and accidentally (or maybe not?) touched his... butt in the process? Oh, man, after Shura who almost got to touch his crotch, Lightning is gonna become my next most envied character...
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Luzmela on July 01, 2017, 10:32:23 PM
Hi hi, Cloelia! My bet goes to you! This will be great!

I think it will be happen but it will last 36 chapters!

But it will be amazing!
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 01, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Don't tell me that Yukio looked so "startled" the moment Lightning approached him to give him the usb pen because he... slipped it somewhere near his holster and inadvertently touched his... butt in the process?

(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/legomessageboards/images/e/e0/Horrified.gif)

Serious mode -- Yukio was weirded out because Lightning ambled over to him and proceeded to say "I like sushi a lot 0147AAA". Later while fighting, Yukio found the flashdrive in his pocket and then realized that "I like sushi a lot 0147AAA" was the password.

- Those two are sort of alike and yet total opposites. Yukio can't stand guys like that.

I love how in those two panels it's like they're trying to out-crazy each other. Yukio with his insane "I'm going to kill you" glare and Lightning with his clownish "I'm so innocent" grin. It's hard to pick which one is more loony.

- They better give us some real revelations next chapter and not just 20 pages of Yukio freaking out over some unseen info.

We better find out what's going on soon. I'm mad already that Yukio will go nuts before we know why Shiemi quit.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 02, 2017, 12:08:50 AM
^I'm starting to think that maybe Yukio's and Shiemi's plots in this story are intertwined, and will be going on at the same time and build off each other. It could be like with the Illuminati arc and Renzou and Izumo's development. It would explain why Yukio and Shiemi's  development in comparison with the other characters is somewhat behind. I love Yukio, but it would be a better option than to have him go nuts for 20+ chapters.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Mayhem950 on July 02, 2017, 12:54:14 AM
^I'm starting to think that maybe Yukio's and Shiemi's plots in this story are intertwined, and will be going on at the same time and build off each other. It could be like with the Illuminati arc and Renzo and Izumo's development. It would explain why Yukio and Shiemi's  development in comparison with the other characters is somewhat behind. I love Yukio, but it would be a better option than to have him go nuts for 20+ chapters.

^ I'd say Rin, Shiemi and Yukio's stories are gonna be intertwined actually. Rather than just Shiemi and Yukio's, Rin recently more or less is starting to be more involved with both their stories, along with I get the feeling with his whole not wanting to know more about his origins/birth mother it's leading to eventually expanding on that or something new for his development and him getting focus along with them.

but this could just be me. It just makes sense to me given they are the main three characters/trio for their story to be intertwined in a way for certain parts while also still being separate/individual character arcs for them.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 02, 2017, 02:26:12 AM
^I agree that Rin will eventually become a part of a Shiemi/Yukio arc, these three are the main characters after all. I just meant that Shiemi and Yukio's plots would start out with just them but later Rin would involve himself since he's so close to them. There's also the whole love triangle plot that needs resolving.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: chinonamida on July 02, 2017, 02:27:04 AM
there is a tumblr post linked here (http://ao-no-exorcist-blog-blr.tumblr.com/post/162469404369/ecassandrae-why-does-lightining-tell-yukio-i) looking at the scene where Lightning talks to Yukio:

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Why does Lightining tell Yukio “I like sushi a lot 0147AAA”?

*scrolling down*

Ah. It’s the password to the pen drive he gives him with the secrets files he’s unfolded concerning their birth.
Don't tell me that Yukio looked so "startled" the moment Lightning approached him to give him the usb pen because he... slipped it somewhere near his holster and inadvertently touched his... butt in the process?
Yukio was weirded out because Lightning ambled over to him and proceeded to say "I like sushi a lot 0147AAA". Later while fighting, Yukio found the flashdrive in his pocket and then realized that "I like sushi a lot 0147AAA" was the password.
I say Cloelia is not completely wrong. X)
Yukio was weirded out because Lightning did and said something weird, but it wasn't something so innocent.
After getting up close, he tells him "I love sushi too 0147Aaa".
Not as in "I too love sushi", but as in "I love (unmentioned thing) and I also love sushi".
Which could be interpreted or misconstrued as meaning "I love you".
(edit: It's the English equivalent of saying "Sushi aren't the only thing that I love.")

And he already got weird on Rin in chapter 71 after all.
I'm not saying he's into that, but he seems to like trolling people.

But, man, with Toudou and Lucifer already acting flirty with Yukio, the poor guy doesn't need one more.

There's also the old lady innkeeper and her insinuations, I almost forgot.

Poor guy. xD

I'm starting to wonder what's up with all that.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 02, 2017, 03:49:02 AM
- So a monster is attacking and... are they just going home, or did Yukio just ditch everyone to go fight it by himself?
They didn't follow Yukio and took a train instead, so I think that was Yukio's decision. And it looks like Shima is following Yukio.

- Rin looks like he is noticing something. Such a rare sight to behold.
I think everyone noticed Bon is very weird busy using his laptop. I am actually quite surprised Koneko can endure such scene without asking Bon what he is doing.

- That's a great idea, annoy the fuck out of the laserbeam shooting monster. Is this a new type of creature or have a whole bunch of exorcists not done their research?
They seem very surprised when seeing the laser beam. Well, Laser ... , could it be a kin of light ?

- How does the Order still exist when everyone is so utterly incompetent at their job? Don't allow the criminal to hand over evidence to his allies during his arrest, geez.
I think Lightning is not a criminal yet. They just wants him to explain what's the reason of his action. And the way they monitor Rin is kind of loose ... so maybe they are just experts of handling demon, not very good at handling suspicious people.

^I'm starting to think that maybe Yukio's and Shiemi's plots in this story are intertwined, and will be going on at the same time and build off each other. It could be like with the Illuminati arc and Renzo and Izumo's development. It would explain why Yukio and Shiemi's  development in comparison with the other characters is somewhat behind. I love Yukio, but it would be a better option than to have him go nuts for 20+ chapters.

^ I'd say Rin, Shiemi and Yukio's stories are gonna be intertwined actually. Rather than just Shiemi and Yukio's, Rin recently more or less is starting to be more involved with both their stories, along with I get the feeling with his whole not wanting to know more about his origins/birth mother it's leading to eventually expanding on that or something new for his development and him getting focus along with them.
It's very normal for Rin and Yukio to participate Shiemi's arc, just like how they participated in Bon's and Izumo's and Shura's arcs.

but this could just be me. It just makes sense to me given they are the main three characters/trio for their story to be intertwined in a way for certain parts while also still being separate/individual character arcs for them.
If Yukio joining Illuminati is inevitable, than even if he joins at this arc, we should have a subsequent arc that he returns from Illuminati, and that will be his true arc. For Rin, there are still plenty of issues that can't be all solved in one or two arcs ...
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: jackolope on July 02, 2017, 05:23:45 AM
gay.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: chinonamida on July 02, 2017, 06:01:58 AM
gay.
lol


Anyway, since people don't react to what I believe was the fun part, here's the rest for you guys:

(click to show/hide)

Facet is funnier than me when summarizing things, but all you've got is me this time.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 02, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
-I guess the girl with the glasses is the one live streaming.

I wonder what people unable to see demons are actually seeing. Shura slicing air?

-In the train, Rin tells Ryuuji "having it hard, hun? (crouching in a train alley to work on your computer)".
Though that reminds Ryuuji of what happened with Yukio, and he tells Rin he has something he needs to talk with him about, but not now since he has work to do, so he asks him if he's free tomorrow. Rin replies "Sure".

I'm gonna call it now:

the next day, Rin: "So, what did you want to tell me?" Suguro: "Oh, it's nothing. Forget it."

-When it starts snowing, Rin thinks about Yukio and says he wonders if he has something warm to eat.

... and here my heart melts  :'(

-At the end of the chapter it says "The time to learn everything has come"
And Yukio thinks "This is..."

(Given that last line, I'll be surprised if they don't show us what's on that key next chapter.)

Considering Kato's style (60+ chapters and we still don't know what the hell Yukio's eyes are about), I won't be surprised if we don't get to know what's in that usb for like 60+ more chapters.

Anyway, thank you, chinonamida! You did an awesome job *offers her cookies*
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: facets-and-rainbows on July 02, 2017, 02:33:11 PM
Yaaaay! Thank you, Chino! ^_^

Renzou: "Even if you ask me... (I can't tell you) Anyway, could you please take off that bell. I do spying for the order too you know." Lightning: "Alright." Renzou: "Really?" Lightning: "But in exchange, I have something I want you to do."

Well now I really want to know what THAT is too. Looks like Lightning getting taken into custody won't even make a dent in how fast his investigation progresses, now that he's got Yukio AND Shima on the case in addition to Suguro. Ragtag team of mostly unwilling minions!

I am not over how tall Osceola Redarm is when he stands up. The panel where he just picks Lightning up in one hand like a grimy kitten, lol.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 02, 2017, 02:51:25 PM
Thanks! so you read Korean, too?

-People are looking at the news and are reacting differently depending on whether they can see the demon or not and whether they know what demons are or not...
Reconsidering it, maybe the main purpose of this attack is to let more people know the existence of demon

Yukio: "If you're not gonna tell me, I'm not gonna tell you". Lightning: "You want to know (about other people's information), but you don't want them to know (about your information). You're quite the egoist one." Yukio: "Compared to you, I lose in that regard." meaning "you're more egoist than me" in case it's not clear. Lightning: "It might seems so, but that's not the case. I'm a real humanist." Memory of Ryuuji during the phone call: "To go this far, he must have a reason. If I tell him, maybe I can save/help him..."
So Bon did tell others and Yukio expects it. I wonder if Yukio had any plan for subsequent steps, or is he just mad and abandon rational thoughts? Lightning is unexpectedly nice to him. It seems like he also wants Yukio to be on his side.

You're keeping watch on Yukio, right?" Renzou: "Even if you ask me... (I can't tell you) Anyway, could you please take off that bell. I do spying for the order too you know." Lightning: "Alright." Renzou: "Really?" Lightning: "But in exchange, I have something I want you to do."
... another unknown info.

I think Renzou is following Yukio, but I am a little surprised he can't even admit that to Lightning.

-Later at the dorm. Ryuuji talks to himself and says "What the hell did he do, this guy..."
Maybe what Lightning gave Yukio is the same as the documents Bon is reading?

-In the train, Rin tells Ryuuji "having it hard, hun? (crouching in a train alley to work on your computer)".
Though that reminds Ryuuji of what happened with Yukio, and he tells Rin he has something he needs to talk with him about, but not now since he has work to do, so he asks him if he's free tomorrow. Rin replies "Sure".

I'm gonna call it now:

the next day, Rin: "So, what did you want to tell me?" Suguro: "Oh, it's nothing. Forget it."
Usually in the manga it means something is going to happen tomorrow before Bon tells Rin, so I believe Bon does mean he will tell Rin, although at that time he probably doesn't need anymore.

I'm a little bothered what's so urgent in Bon's laptop that he doesn't have time to simply say "Something is wrong about your brother, you should be with him.". And it looks like Rin actually was asking Bon what he is busy doing.

-When it starts snowing, Rin thinks about Yukio and says he wonders if he has something warm to eat.

... and here my heart melts  :'(
I'm also a little bothered why Rin still goes home even though he is deeply worrying about Yukio.

-At the end of the chapter it says "The time to learn everything has come"
And Yukio thinks "This is..."

(Given that last line, I'll be surprised if they don't show us what's on that key next chapter.)

Considering Kato's style (60+ chapters and we still don't know what the hell Yukio's eyes are about), I won't be surprised if we don't get to know what's in that usb for like 60+ more chapters.
A large part of the manga is from Yukio's perspective, so I think we will always have the same knowledge as Yukio.

But maybe that's only my hope...
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 02, 2017, 03:37:37 PM
Thanks chino! Didn't know you could read Korean, that's cool!

Then Lightning says Ryuuji just called him on the phone and asked him if he could tell Yukio about their research and adds "of course I told him he couldn't. So, what do you want to know so much that you would go that far?". Yukio: "If you're not gonna tell me, I'm not gonna tell you". Lightning: "You want to know (about other people's information), but you don't want them to know (about your information). You're quite the egoist one."

I'm now 100% sure that Lightning has given Renzou instructions on a plan to somehow get/expose the information Yukio's been concealing.

So Bon did tell others and Yukio expects it. I wonder if Yukio had any plan for subsequent steps, or is he just mad and abandon rational thoughts? Lightning is unexpectedly nice to him. It seems like he also wants Yukio to be on his side.

I think Yukio's "plan" after realizing he fucked up in threatening Bon was to escape into work ASAP. He didn't have to take the key back to the Academy, but he did to probably get away from Bon and the others.

Lightning is not nice as much as sussing out Yukio. Note, Yukio didn't defend his threat on Bon's life. He just gave that nasty look and spoke tersely. After he got a read on Yukio with his comments on some people not wanting help, then he gave instructions to Renzou. So Renzou will probably act as his agent and in return, Lightning will undo the Sylph Bell. Given Renzou's assignment to push Yukio over the edge and how Lightning wants Renzou to build trust with the Illuminati before he gets info out of him, this cannot end well.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Gem-Bug on July 02, 2017, 04:28:35 PM
Is it wrong that my favorite bits of new chapters are the introduction of new demons? Shadowy Bogeymen?! Hot damn.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on July 02, 2017, 05:18:16 PM
Is it wrong that my favorite bits of new chapters are the introduction of new demons? Shadowy Bogeymen?! Hot damn.

They are so cute. It makes me laugh because she previously posted on her twitter about playing Pokemon GO, and that was the first thing I thought of when I saw them.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 02, 2017, 05:36:43 PM
Anyway, thank you, chinonamida! You did an awesome job *offers her cookies*

*cough* chino's a dude.

Usually in the manga it means something is going to happen tomorrow before Bon tells Rin, so I believe Bon does mean he will tell Rin, although at that time he probably doesn't need anymore.

Yeah, I'm pretty certain Bon will tell Rin. Depending on how much he tells Rin, Rin might tell Bon that Yukio was acting really weird about that subject. But you're right. Whatever Yukio will take away from that drive, he's going to ruthlessly pursue the lead and neither Rin nor anyone can stop him.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 02, 2017, 06:33:52 PM
Anyway, thank you, chinonamida! You did an awesome job *offers her cookies*

*cough* chino's a dude.

*cough* My apologies, chinonamida *cough*

Chapter 91, Shura: "Bring the exwires too, we're shorthanded."
Chapter 92, Someone: "Oh, welcome back, exwires! Go have dinner, we got Yukio now so we're not shorthanded anymore (even if he's just one-handed)"
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: chinonamida on July 02, 2017, 06:55:51 PM
^They address this in only one panel. It seems the battle field was so confused they couldn't find anyone to give them orders.

Thanks! so you read Korean, too?
Thanks chino! Didn't know you could read Korean, that's cool!
I don't know a word of Korean, but I've got the Japanese version.

I only know English, Japanese, French, Spanish, German and some Latin.


*cough* My apologies, chinonamida *cough*

Oh, and it's alright. You couldn't know.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: layla.A on July 02, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
I feel that we reach the end of the manga I longed to see the plot lighting / renzou, we are going to be surprised friends
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 03, 2017, 02:03:49 AM
I understand now why Lightning wanted to give the info to Yukio. He's seen the danger Yukio poses if something gets in the way of what he wants, so he gives the info to him in an effort to sastify him and to keep him out of trouble.

Unfortunately, I don't think this method of just giving Yukio what he wants will work. Yukio has already convinced himself that he is too different from others for them to help him, that he doesn't want help, and will do whatever it takes to get what he wants. Simply giving him whatever info they have will make him more and more demanding of them when the info he has isn't enough for him.

With Lightning now arrested, Bon has no one to go to if Yukio threatens him again. I guess he could get Rin or Renzou to help him, but I think that Rin would be hesitant to face Yukio because he doesn't want their relationship to get any worse. Renzou I think would be torn between keeping the pressure on Yukio from the Illuminati's side, and to keep Yukio in check so he doesn't do something that would hurt his friends in the Order. Hopefully whatever Lightning told Renzou to do will help.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 03, 2017, 06:28:25 AM
So Bon did tell others and Yukio expects it. I wonder if Yukio had any plan for subsequent steps, or is he just mad and abandon rational thoughts? Lightning is unexpectedly nice to him. It seems like he also wants Yukio to be on his side.

I think Yukio's "plan" after realizing he fucked up in threatening Bon was to escape into work ASAP.
Then that's stupid. Yukio is very lucky that Lightning seems trying to get him cooperate for some reason. (I wonder if Lightning has this idea for a while or just after Bon told him Yukio's behavior) Otherwise Yukio might be questioned and the blue eye might be discovered. I thought Yukio would at least put on his famous fake smile to act like everything is normal, unless Yukio doesn't care if he will be in trouble anymore.

After he got a read on Yukio with his comments on some people not wanting help, then he gave instructions to Renzou. So Renzou will probably act as his agent and in return, Lightning will undo the Sylph Bell.
Is it possible that Lightning was actually following Sylph Bell (= Renzou) and accidentally met Yukio?

Anyway, the whole Sylph Bell thing is weird from the start. If Lightning really wants to use it to find Illuminati's base, he shouldn't tell Renzou about it. After Renzou knows, of course he won't go to Illuminati's base. It almost looks like just a fast way to approach and force Renzou cooperate, with how easily Lightning decides to remove Sylph Bell.

Oh, welcome back, exwires! Go have dinner
So why do they have dinner together? Are they waiting for Yukio back, or are they somehow in standby mode waiting for mission assigned?  (or Rin just cook too much food...)

^They address this in only one panel. It seems the battle field was so confused they couldn't find anyone to give them orders.
Is it implied that maybe Mephisto is not in the city?
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: jackolope on July 03, 2017, 08:08:36 AM
Its so odd after so many years (well, maybe just 3 or 4...) of saying," This'll be the chapter Yukio finally snaps!" And now, here we are! I honestly sorta loved his sorta fall from grace, but I guess he was never really graceful? He always had this sort of edge to his character where you'd be like," He's so cool! And nice! But not really?"

Like I'm not sure how to say it properly but from the start there was this layer to him that was artificial and fake and you knew that over time it'd all come undone sorta? Anyway, I originally thought Toudou would be more involved in the process of Yukio snapping, and I miss him. now lightning is responsible for the rlly gay rlly awkward scenes i love

Yukio has always been my favorite (aside from Izumo and Shiemi and Shura, but thats just cause I'm a baby lesbian and they were my awakening, man)! Lightning has been a favorite of mine for awhile now, too! Seeing them interact was so fun! I didn't think Lightning would hust hand him over the information like that! But anything to keep him away from the Illuminati, I guess. But I think it might lead to him joining it even more maybe?
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 03, 2017, 08:34:51 AM
Then Lightning says Ryuuji just called him on the phone and asked him if he could tell Yukio about their research and adds "of course I told him he couldn't. So, what do you want to know so much that you would go that far?".

Considering this, I think (or to be precise, I fear) that Lightning didn't put any info regarding what Ryuji and him got to know so far (about the clones, Satan and how he was "created", etc.) into that usb. I have the feeling that he might have merely gave Yukio something to keep his mind busy for the time he'll be kept under arrest so to prevent Yukio to use the opportunity to "threaten" Ryuji again for infos/do any other crazy things. Of course he let him onto something quite "big" (and I mean, big enough to have him cast his "I want to know the truth" obsession aside) but not related in any way to the investigation. My guess is, it could be related to the mark on Drac's neck and what that could be connected with. And Lightning probably asked Renzo to keep an eye on Yukio to see if he rised to the bait and keep him informed on how he'll deal with that matter.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Luzmela on July 03, 2017, 10:38:49 AM
Quoting Cloelia:  'I have the feeling that he might have merely gave Yukio something to keep his mind busy for the time he'll be kept under arrest so to prevent Yukio to use the opportunity to "threaten" Ryuji again for infos/do any other crazy things"

I have this fear too. But after the words of Kato- sensei in the last panel " time to learn or someting like that" would be so cruel to make to us that, and Yukio of course,after so many years waiting for knowing the beginning of everthing.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: gokusdonut on July 03, 2017, 03:34:38 PM
It'd be funny if Lightning trolled Yukio, but maybe that's just me. Like "the password is such and such, here's the flashdrive" and he plugs it in and gets a troll gif instead.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 03, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
^ OMG. If that did happen, Yukio would probably unload a clip into the laptop screen.

Whatever Lightning does, it is not for Yukio's or Bon's benefit. Yukio's actions and closed-off demeanor have told Lightning that Yukio is concealing something big. That's when Lightning gave Renzou instructions and Yukio the flashdrive.

Lightning will probably continue his investigation via proxy using Bon. However, he can't drag information out of Yukio when he's in custody. So he'll give Yukio what he has and can use Renzou to provoke a disclosure of what Yukio's hiding. After all, the drive won't tell Yukio what he really wants. Nothing we've learned in following Bon and Lightning has explained the blue eye incidents. All we've learned is that Yukio and Rin have extra heritage from the Azazel host clones.

Its so odd after so many years (well, maybe just 3 or 4...) of saying," This'll be the chapter Yukio finally snaps!" And now, here we are!

It's been 6-7 years. I've been talking about Yukio snapping since chapter 16. The moment Toudou showed up was the moment I knew I was into this manga for the long haul. Ah, those were the days. I used to have big arguments with Anya back then. I insisted Yukio would snap big time in the Kyoto arc, while she insisted that Yukio wouldn't break and that whole trope would never come to pass. I'm happy to report that both of us were wrong.

Like I'm not sure how to say it properly but from the start there was this layer to him that was artificial and fake and you knew that over time it'd all come undone sorta? Anyway, I originally thought Toudou would be more involved in the process of Yukio snapping, and I miss him. now lightning is responsible for the rlly gay rlly awkward scenes i love

I love it. Yukio is every bit the aggressive asshole that I thought he was. Usually the smart glasses character archetype is supposed to be the cool calm one, more prone to acting creepy, cold or distant. Instead Yukio's full of rage and aggression.

Toudou will show up, and he brings the rly gay all-but-subtext wherever he goes. Hell, he did it in his two-minute appearance at the end of Aomori, with just saying "I like/love Yukio". Viz kinda de-gayed that translation. i swear to god i'm not a toukio fan... *quietly sweeps one of her favorite fanfics under a table*[size]

Then that's stupid. Yukio is very lucky that Lightning seems trying to get him cooperate for some reason. (I wonder if Lightning has this idea for a while or just after Bon told him Yukio's behavior) Otherwise Yukio might be questioned and the blue eye might be discovered. I thought Yukio would at least put on his famous fake smile to act like everything is normal, unless Yukio doesn't care if he will be in trouble anymore.

Yukio doesn't even understand how he threatened Bon. He was just as shocked as Bon when he realized what he was doing. So Yukio's in denial about that even happening. Thus, his insane/angry expression when Lightning went "yo, so you threatened my apprentice with a gun?" He couldn't even muster the discipline to do his fake smile.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: vannahfoxx on July 03, 2017, 09:19:24 PM
damn wish i knew what the hell these guys are saying can't wait for translations to come out, but i can kinda get the gist of this chapter. yukio continues to worry me and everyone else as usual and lightning gave him some info maybe on the investigation? its weird to see someone give yukio what he needs, but i'm not quite sure it'll have the effect lightning wants. i guess he's asking shima to watch him? makes sense, i doubt even lightning can predict yukio's actions at this point. its a bit weird not seeing any yukio/ shura interactions but maybe we'll see some the next chapters. not much from the other characters as well, kinda glad that bon told lightning about yukio's threat though instead of keeping to himself and i still hope he mentions it to rin. the story's slowing down a bit but i'm interested to see what happens in the next chapter


Like I'm not sure how to say it properly but from the start there was this layer to him that was artificial and fake and you knew that over time it'd all come undone sorta? Anyway, I originally thought Toudou would be more involved in the process of Yukio snapping, and I miss him. now lightning is responsible for the rlly gay rlly awkward scenes i love

same here, but i guess it shows that he's not impulsive and that he's more patient. maybe he'll come in right as yukio is at his breaking point now that'll be an interesting confrontation.

Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Gem-Bug on July 03, 2017, 11:34:29 PM
I'm surprised by the amount of what looks like unfinished panels, and the lack of background on most of them. I know Kato tends to take june off every year, though she didn't this year... really seems like they didn't have the time to finish it properly.

Oh, and, am I the only one thinking yukio's left eye look weird in this shot? the light area around his pupil shouldn't be there, or am I imagining things?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331555010725019648/331555062931390468/92_023-600x876.jpg)

No, I noticed it too. I think it's intentional!
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 04, 2017, 02:30:07 AM
^Yeah, I noticed that too. In fact, in chapter 90, when Shiemi asks Rin if something had happened, she has a weird white disc in her right eye. Makes you wonder.. :o
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 04, 2017, 04:54:18 AM
^ I honestly think in this panel, his eyes are normal. The focus is just on how angry he looks. When Katou wants to make a character more expressive, sometimes she doesn't shade the iris. For example, Shiemi's pissed off expression in chapter 82 (here (http://www.mangapanda.com/ao-no-exorcist/84/7)).

However, there are panels that focus on Yukio's eye that make it odd-looking. Best example is in chapter 67 immediately after Lucy says "this is because I want to save you" (the middle panel here (http://www.mangapanda.com/ao-no-exorcist/67/21)). It's as if the demonic eye is hidden in the pupil of a normal one.

Someone on reddit posted a link to the Japanese raw (http://manga-spoiler.com/archives/91014). They also has a short translation of the chapter here (https://pastebin.com/A3YJp2NH). The most interesting part IMO:

Quote
Lightning: You can only save people who want to be saved.
Lightning: And that guy doesn't want to be saved.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 04, 2017, 08:34:01 AM
"HAS THE TIME COME FOR HIM TO LEARN EVERYTHING....!?"

This... *cries* When it's put like that, you can be 99% sure the answer will be NO.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: AshiSurana on July 04, 2017, 09:11:04 AM
So... This chapter is great, but I have really bad feelings about Yukio. Title this chapter is "The end of the Snow" and "snow" is also part of Yukio name. I don't like this, really don't
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on July 04, 2017, 01:01:15 PM
Did any one notice the (arrest?) orders/warrant that he was holding up held the signatures of the "Grigori," Arthur, and I'm assuming the other three arc knights, including Drac? Made me wonder about Arthur. Does it erk him to be working for a demon king and two "emperors," if even their representatives?
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: kirarin on July 04, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
"HAS THE TIME COME FOR HIM TO LEARN EVERYTHING....!?"

This... *cries* When it's put like that, you can be 99% sure the answer will be NO.
we'll get to that in 29 years i guess. all chapters are giving snippets but those little things either are giving a lot or little. revelations are slowly coming but you don't really seem to appreciate it a lot because it doesn't answer some of the questions still. pacing is slow, lots of misplaced humor on serious events,some jokes are starting to get corny. i dunno. maybe im just not reading it right. or maybe im just tired with this running around looking for answers

i hope next month won't be a troll. because if either that usb pen had something relevant and panels would just keep on showing yukio's f*cked up face or some hideous joke  and not the details, or a jape or trick lightning has, i might just lose it. and while i was typing the latter, i just realized that it won't just happen that easily next chapter because there is a thing called build up and it ain't coming soon. nuh uh.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 04, 2017, 02:59:06 PM
So... This chapter is great, but I have really bad feelings about Yukio. Title this chapter is "The end of the Snow" and "snow" is also part of Yukio name. I don't like this, really don't
It make sense if in this arc Yukio abandon the Order and join the other side, probably even with a different nickname ...

Someone on reddit posted a link to the Japanese raw (http://manga-spoiler.com/archives/91014). They also has a short translation of the chapter here (https://pastebin.com/A3YJp2NH). The most interesting part IMO:

Quote
Lightning: You can only save people who want to be saved.
Lightning: And that guy doesn't want to be saved.
Then I think it's more reasonable to assume Lightning knows more about Yukio than we thought, and he probably has his plan for Yukio for a while.

There is a little more information after reading the raw:

Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 04, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
Title this chapter is "The end of the Snow" and "snow" is also part of Yukio name. I don't like this, really don't

Wait, that's true, the actual title is "雪の果て1". What's that "1" supposed to mean? Like, 1st part of The end of the snow?... *goosebumps* Like... wut?
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 04, 2017, 03:31:29 PM
So... This chapter is great, but I have really bad feelings about Yukio. Title this chapter is "The end of the Snow" and "snow" is also part of Yukio name. I don't like this, really don't
It make sense if in this arc Yukio abandon the Order and join the other side, probably...

"End/To the end of snow"?!? Welp, that's ominous.

I don't think this'll get drawn out for much longer. Yukio's on a final descent into crazyville.

This is going to be a long month of waiting.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 04, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/mbqw0l.jpg)

It would be ironic that after all Shima's death flags, Yukio'll end up being the first (or worse, the only) character to die...
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Gem-Bug on July 04, 2017, 07:27:19 PM


  • The ghost appear because the laser beam hit a Cenotaph(慰霊碑) at Higashi Ikebukuro Park. This is a real place at the location of the original Sugamo Prison (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugamo_Prison).

That's super interesting. Where ghosts are possessing vapor released from corpses, I wonder how that works, that they're appearing in a place that's just a placeholder/shrine to the dead? We have Ghosts, Evil Ghosts, Galatea, Fetishes, Jack-in-the-box, and maybe some Shapeshifters that all seem to be the "Ghost" archetype, just possessing different materials. Perhaps these shadowy ghosts appear in places with lingering sadness or regret? Hmm hmm....
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Gem-Bug on July 04, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
http://citiesintransitionjapan.blogspot.ca/2015/09/the-sugamo-prison-memorial-reid-knight.html

This article has a photo of said damaged cenotaph/memorial, for those interested. :)
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 05, 2017, 06:07:52 AM
Despite the title "The End of the Snow 1", I don't think that Yukio is going to switch sides now, at least not until 10 more chapters or so. It also has a 1 in the title, which means that there are going to be more End of the Snow chapters. How many I don't know, but I predict that in each chapter with this title something will happen that drives him closer and closer to the Illuminati. I could also see the possibility of the next few chapters being titled something else, then we get the "End of the Snow 2" after that.

I know that this whole Yukio thing of giving into his rage and joining the Illuminati has been dragging on and on, and we all want to see the results of all this buildup, but as of right now I can't help but feel that he doesn't have good enough reasons to completely leave the Order and his friends yet. I'm all for Yukio becoming a bad guy, but I at least want it to progress in a way that makes sense.

Sorry for rambling  :-\
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Mojo on July 06, 2017, 02:14:40 AM
Wow Lightning was really arrested, I was wondering how he was getting away with all the bullshit he was doing. It seems Yukio finally got a glimpse of what he wanted, now let's see Rins reaction to what he did, I'm expecting him to get violent and all. I also.like the fact that Bon didn't hide it, this dude is clearly unstable and could get dangerous.Also I'm wondering if Shima is going to risk the exwires wellbeing if it means that Yukio will join the Illuminati, I would honestly not dismiss ot considering the Izumo situation...
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 06, 2017, 05:02:36 AM
Wait, that's true, the actual title is "雪の果て1". What's that "1" supposed to mean? Like, 1st part of The end of the snow?
Looks like the same as previously chapters like "True Cross Academy Festival --- Eve/The Night/Final Night", "Opening Game/Middle Game/End Game", "Pink Spider --- Part 1/2/3"

And it just starts snowing this chapter, so it make sense that it isn't the only "End of Snow" chapter.

as of right now I can't help but feel that he doesn't have good enough reasons to completely leave the Order and his friends yet. I'm all for Yukio becoming a bad guy, but I at least want it to progress in a way that makes sense.
I think it's quite evident he won't join Illuminati only with current development. A later change from "no one can help me" to "Lucifer can help me" is necessary.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 07, 2017, 10:16:52 AM
Mmm, I have a feeling (directly inspired by my fanfic). I highly doubt that if Suguro is actually going to talk to Rin about Yukio he's planning to mention the gun incident. I think Suguro does want to warn Rin about Yukio's behaviour, but going through an other path. Like, he could just randomly ask Rin "Did you ever want to know about your birth?" and use this question as a mean to try to understand why Yukio wanted so bad to know about it in the first place. If Yukio wants to know that much, Suguro would wonder if Rin does as well. But this question will only bring Rin to remember the confrontation the twins had that night. So he'll probably ask Suguro why he's asking that to him. Suguro doesn't know about that confrontation though (or at least I think is safe to assume this) so he may accidentally mention Yukio at some point. And... oh, well.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 08, 2017, 04:49:12 PM
I don't think so. Bon didn't respond to any of Yukio's question in the gun incident, so I highly doubt he ever considering why Yukio wants to know so much. And Bon is never such an indirect person. He can just tell Rin what Yukio was doing.

Anyway, I believe something will happen before tomorrow morning so the conversation will not happen.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 10, 2017, 05:31:56 PM
So, I just got my Weekly Shonen Jump issue contaning the english translated version of chapter 92. So here's the "official" translation of the title:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/1sgled.jpg)

Unfortunetely I don't have time to read it now and/or scan it, but what do you think about this title? They didn't translate "End of the snow", but "Beyond the snow" and... yeah, so it's a PART 1... man, I need chapter 93 like... NOW! So excited *giggles*
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 11, 2017, 12:33:09 AM
^ Oh boy. Part 1? Yukio is toast.

I have to admit, it's not as accurate but I love how Viz translated Lightning and Yukio's dialogue:

"You're inquisitive and secretive, which is pretty conceited"
"But not as conceited as you" Yukio plz
"I might look it but not really (I'm making an effort to be more caring)" LIGHTNING PLZ.

And the award for most relatable panel goes to...

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/2eca788860e68127dac4df3836c2ae18/tumblr_oswhdd4g5j1tpl1vro1_250.png)
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: facets-and-rainbows on July 11, 2017, 01:20:06 AM
Unfortunetely I don't have time to read it now and/or scan it, but what do you think about this title? They didn't translate "End of the snow", but "Beyond the snow" and... yeah, so it's a PART 1... man, I need chapter 93 like... NOW! So excited *giggles*

I'm just gonna quietly leave the dictionary definition for 果て here. (The chapter title is "Snow's 果て")

はて【果て】

Hate【果て】

So maybe some combination of "hey it stopped snowing" (the "end of the snow" version) and "I walked through miles and miles of snow and here's where I ended up" (the "beyond the snow" version) and "this is the result of all that snow" and "OH GOD IS YUKIO GONNA BE OKAY?"
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 11, 2017, 09:46:43 AM
^ In any case, this better be the prologue to some significant revelation either about Yukio's eyes/his birth/his potential or to a breaking point which will lead him to either join the Illuminati/just leave the Order/talk to Rin/talk to whoever/regain some mental stability or to do anything we've been waiting/hoping/wanting for him to do.

If after 5/6 years of excruciating building up, Kato-sama entitles a chapter like that and she's not gonna give us any of the above revelations/developments by the end of the last part, I fear the only thing which will -end- is not the snow, but a lot of people's patience. At least, that's what I believe.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Wikkelsoee on July 11, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
^ We've been waiting for over 5 years, what's another 2 or 3?...

Anyway, it looks like things are speeding up. Hopefully we'll get something interesting in the next chapter and not just "Yukio learned something new so we'll just keep it a secret for the next 5 chapters while you watch his mental breakdown".
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 11, 2017, 01:11:52 PM
^ I wouldn't mind that either, even 5/6 more years too. But what I meant is after a title like -that-, not giving anything to us over the next couple months would be kinda... cruel?

Anyway, for an hamburgers' lover like Lightning, I can't stop thinking that that "I love sushi" sounds way way too ambiguous. Like, it's just the password (or at least a part of it, or the user name? (I'm not sure, but it's written "I love sushi-0147Aaa" so I take it's a whole password. Also, when Yukio is typing, there's only a password field)), but what if it's also a secret code Kato gave to -us- to try and guess what's in the usb while we kill the wait for the next chapter? Or it's just totally random? Man, if it's something like a secret code, I'm up for the challenge. Theories anyone?
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 11, 2017, 04:28:11 PM
^ Honestly, I think we might not even see much Yukio next chapter. But I'm near 100% certain that Renzou will show up to monitor Yukio next chapter and that we'll be in his POV. I also think will alternate with Lightning's arrest and questioning.

Then I think Katou will take a break in September. She's been missing a lot of panels since chapter 89 and will have to spend a fair portion of time finalizing those for volume 20's release in October. I think that's why she didn't take her usual June break -- because she has to get all the chapters out in time for the volume co-release with the Spy Game OVA. Volume 20 will have chapters 89 through 93.

I do think we are on Yukio's final descent into crazyville. He has rapidly ramped up his crazy behavior in the span of three chapters. That's days between acting totes normal and threatening to shoot Bon.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Taytronics7 on July 11, 2017, 05:56:06 PM
^That sounds plausible. What do you think that Yukio will be like once the "Beyond the Snow" chapters are done?

I think that after he finds out the information from Lightning, he'll be more determined then ever to discover the secrets of his birth. The information that he got was just a small portion. I don't think he'll join the Illuminati just yet though. He needs something to happen that convinces him that the Order isn't trustworthy, as he has too much to lose if he defects.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 11, 2017, 10:39:48 PM
^ Not too different from now. Angry, sarcastic, bitter and prone to sardonic laughter.

Agreed that he won't be satisfied by the incomplete information and that it isn't enough to cause him to defect. However, Mephisto gave Bon and Lightning a lot of context that might not be included, plus Lightning had additional info that even Bon didn't have e.g. Azazel is one of the Grigori. Without that context, Yukio could lose faith in the Order and Mephisto. Still, I think Yukio has to feel personally betrayed to leave the Order. I don't think Lightning and Bon have found anything that could cause that.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 12, 2017, 02:15:38 PM
I just realised it by reading the viz version. I think I found Bourguignon from the anime.

(click to show/hide)

Maybe something to add to Cloelia's list of anime predictions :p

Yes, it -is- him. But the topic you're talking about was meant to "list" all the manga details which the anime fillers "showed" before they actually appeared/happened in the chapters which were released after the anime was over. Bourguignon is not a character "introduced" by the anime. He already existed in the manga and appeared back in chapter 14.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/24pjwud.jpg)

If he was an anime-only character (like grandpa Egin, Neuhaus' wife, etc.) then, yes, that would've been considered a "manga detail spoiled by the anime fillers". (and God save us if Kato-sama is -ever- planning to put grandpa Egin in the manga)
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: tandem on July 12, 2017, 04:34:42 PM
I just realised it by reading the viz version. I think I found Bourguignon from the anime.

(click to show/hide)

Maybe something to add to Cloelia's list of anime predictions :p

Yes, it -is- him. But the topic you're talking about was meant to "list" all the manga details which the anime fillers "showed" before they actually appeared/happened in the chapters which were released after the anime was over. Bourguignon is not a character "introduced" by the anime. He already existed in the manga and appeared back in chapter 14.
And I think we also saw him in Chapter 87 (http://www.mangapanda.com/ao-no-exorcist/87/11)
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on July 12, 2017, 07:26:00 PM

If he was an anime-only character (like grandpa Egin, Neuhaus' wife, etc.) then, yes, that would've been considered a "manga detail spoiled by the anime fillers". (and God save us if Kato-sama is -ever- planning to put grandpa Egin in the manga)

Now I'm not saying we might not see them in the manga, seeing as we don't know what diabolical crap Neuhaus is up to all alone with those creepy hands [don't go there...], but I saw his wife as a placeholder for the Impure King. Instead of the fungus goop, everyone got trapped in her webs, and it was used for Rin to get over his flames and for you to see a mini divide between him and Yukio. Grampy is Lucifer's placeholder. The crackpot that wanted to destroy Gehenna. This time we have a crackpot wanting to destroy Assiah under the guise of bringing harmony. Because the only way it seems they can accomplish this is if everyone goes back to nothingness. No pain after all. One accidentally brings Satan, the other is purposefully trying to do it. They both gathered demons and opened a gate.

Just who's Yoshikuni's counterpart?

And wouldn't it be interesting if we find out that Lucifer made the Illuminati with or for Yuri?
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 12, 2017, 10:07:03 PM
Grampy is Lucifer's placeholder.

Yes, I mentioned this in that topic (more or less, but I meant this). I avoided any Impure King arc connections, so I didn't includ them, but the anime fillers gave away at least a dozen IK arc spoilers.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: earthforge on July 17, 2017, 04:14:54 PM
Just who's Yoshikuni's counterpart?

Y'know, I think she was a replacement for Tatsuma since Tatsuma is the only character who knows Myou Dha's secrets including about Koumaken. Remember how he offered to help Rin if Rin had any issues with the sword at the end of the IK arc. Also Bon recently was starting to ask Tatsuma about Shiro. I'm pretty sure that Tatsuma will show up again to help piece together some mystery, especially if it has to do with Koumaken getting damaged or broken.

Also interesting to note what the anime directly avoided addressing, like how Yukio's powers showed up or how Rin's powers worked.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Kittykat on July 17, 2017, 05:33:09 PM
Just who's Yoshikuni's counterpart?

Y'know, I think she was a replacement for Tatsuma since Tatsuma is the only character who knows Myou Dha's secrets including about Koumaken. Remember how he offered to help Rin if Rin had any issues with the sword at the end of the IK arc. Also Bon recently was starting to ask Tatsuma about Shiro. I'm pretty sure that Tatsuma will show up again to help piece together some mystery, especially if it has to do with Koumaken getting damaged or broken.

Also interesting to note what the anime directly avoided addressing, like how Yukio's powers showed up or how Rin's powers worked.

You know, I think you're right. It would explain the odd link to Ryuji. Should we be expecting to see Kurikara breaking then? I thought that it was interesting that we haven't seen that plot point, and the part where Satan's voice being Fujimoto also is making me think of the clone situation. I wonder if there is a master vessel for all those demons to be used for Satan in the resurrection? If so, will it be a clone, or will it be Rin or Yukio? How will Rin be sacrificed, and how will Yukio attempt to save him? (Or them saving each other for that matter) If that plot point is going to be used too.
Title: Re: Chapter 92 RAW
Post by: Cloelia on July 20, 2017, 08:14:01 PM
I have another feeling. Lightning stated "You can only help someone who wants help. And he doesn't want any help." Preceded by Lightning remembering Suguro's call and the comment "Ryuji's a good boy."

Reading this part again I sensed something along the lines: Lightning "I would usually drop any attempt to help a guy like that (Yukio) since he's clearly a lost cause, but Ryuji is a good boy and he already proved it a lot to me lately. For once, I want to do something good for him (Suguro) (reinforced by the "I'm making an effort to be more caring!" even if it was more likely just a ironical statement) and try help that guy (Yukio) since Suguro is worried about him."

So, what if what Lightning is actually planning to do is something to get Yukio to the stage that he WANTS to be helped?
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