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Blue Exorcist => Other Media => Topic started by: NeeNee on September 06, 2012, 09:57:39 PM

Title: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on September 06, 2012, 09:57:39 PM
As most of you probably already know, there's an animated Blue Exorcist movie in the works.

According to the latest news, it should be in the theaters by the end of december.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/news/2011-09-30/blue-exorcist-anime-film-green-lit
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13631


I wonder what to expect of this? The anime was kinda weird, but then again, the animation itself was really good, so they only need to fix the storyline.

As far as we know, the movie could be based on the anime, based on the manga, or it could be an entirely new story... normally I'd be hoping for the latter, but in that case it better not be the writers from the anime who are in charge. If they are, I hope they will stick to the manga.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: hijikata on October 06, 2012, 06:23:32 AM
Personally, I found the anime pretty disappointing. Regardless, I'm actually pretty excited for the movie.

I have a feeling it's gonna be an anime verse story. Though it seems, like in recent chapters, some of what was in the anime is actually canon to a degree.
Though I think the movie is going to be a more exclusive story. That's what anime movies are usually like right?

I think, as long as they don't try too hard, stick to the solid elements, this movie won't be entirely disappointing.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on October 06, 2012, 11:09:49 AM
^ In my experience anime movies tend to go too far. They are usually based on some little thing that has been said during the anime, and from there on it's just blown out of proportions (FMA: The Sacred Star of Milos is a good example...)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on October 07, 2012, 08:08:36 PM
^ I didn't know that one, only Shamballa. It was good only thanks to amounts of brotherly love between Ed and two Als (Ed/Al shipper 4eva!)

I don't expect great things from AnE movie, especially after the anime (its second part, to be precise), but aren't manga-based movies basically fanservice anyway?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on October 08, 2012, 11:33:04 PM
Btw, the animenewsnetwork page shows this snowy picture. Do you think it's got something to do with the movie, or is it from somewhere else?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-03-30/blue-exorcist-film-staff-key-visual-revelaed
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on October 09, 2012, 08:26:50 PM
^ Totally a fanservice. I think it's got as much to do with the movie as color pages have with the manga story. Which is - not so much, actually.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on October 09, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
^ Pity. It's a pretty cool pic (though I don't understand why Shiemi and Izumo are wearing short skirts in the snow).
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: babysarah on October 11, 2012, 12:17:51 PM
The only problem with looking forward to the anime movie is that it'll be FOREVER until it comes out o DVD, gets put on the internet and gets subtitled... I'll probably watch it raw but it's a bit annoying to not know what's going on.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Jarield on October 11, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
Yeah, sadly...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on November 05, 2012, 06:59:45 AM
Quote from: Anime News Network
Blue Exorcist Film's New Key Visual, Gallery Images Posted

The official website for the Blue Exorcist film posted the second new piece of key visual art on Saturday. Keigo Sasaki, the character designer of the ongoing television series and this film, drew the piece. The website also posted behind-the-scenes photos from the studio and production artwork on Saturday and Sunday.

The film adaptation of Kazue Katō's Blue Exorcist (Ao no Exorcist) manga will open on December 28.


Source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com.au/news/2012-11-04/blue-exorcist-film-new-key-visual-gallery-images-posted)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 05, 2012, 03:06:40 PM
^ That pic makes me think of a Disney Movie.

But at least it looks like the story will be different from the anime.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on November 07, 2012, 09:39:07 PM
^Must be the bunny ears. The guy in the background reminds me of the monk from InuYasha.

Why is Yukio riding a Swiss army knife?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 07, 2012, 09:58:53 PM
^ Really? He reminds me more of the dude from Gintama.

And it's called a crane. :P But what I'm wondering about is who hurt him...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 16, 2012, 02:44:07 AM
Bigger picture:
http://www.dm5.com/m114406/
Anybody can read what it says?

And the pic on the mainpage has been replaced by this one:
http://cdn03.animenewsnetwork.com/images/encyc/A13631-996248162.1352308197.jpg
(source) (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13631)
Bunny!kid creeps me out. But at least it looks like Shiro will be playing a role.

I wonder what the setting is. Carnival, maybe? ::)

EDIT:
Here's the same picture bigger, and some extra info (translations needed):
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/0/#page/2
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/38/#page/4
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/38/#page/40
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/38/#page/41
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/39/#page/39
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/39/#page/40
http://s2scanlations.com/online/reader/read/ao_no_exorcist/en/0/40/#page/2

Looks like Angel will be at the party, too.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on November 18, 2012, 01:13:20 PM
I wonder what the setting is. Carnival, maybe? ::)
I've read somewhere it is the Japanese New Year.

I'm looking forward to the movie but...
Quote from: babysarah
The only problem with looking forward to the anime movie is that it'll be FOREVER until it comes out o DVD, gets put on the internet and gets subtitled... I'll probably watch it raw but it's a bit annoying to not know what's going on.
My thoughts exactly. :/
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on November 19, 2012, 07:34:39 AM
Full Trailer for streaming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vwMi7f9JGuY


There is something off-putting about Yukio's ears at 00:46
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 19, 2012, 07:58:15 AM
^ Wait. Bunny is a boy?? :o

I could have sworn that was a girl. But in that case, I suppose they wouldn't put her in bath with four teenage boys.

Also, what's with the voices?

There is something off-putting about Yukio's ears at 00:46
Yeah, there is.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on November 19, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
Full Trailer for streaming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vwMi7f9JGuY
Yay! Looks great.

Edit:
I wonder why Yukio's appearance changes from human to demon (pointy ears) and vice versa or do I delude myself?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on November 19, 2012, 07:35:12 PM
Shiiiiirooou!~ <3

Summary of the movie is probably this: Rin adopts a demon boy for first half. Then a demon hunter demands him back so he can slay him.

Somewhere in the middle of this, Mephisto does his usual speeches, Arthur and Shura go to a bar, and... NO THEY ARE DOING WHAT TO YUKIO. They broke his arm, what the fuck more do they need to do?!

^ Wait. Bunny is a boy?? :o

I could have sworn that was a girl. But in that case, I suppose they wouldn't put her in bath with four teenage boys.

As a mod on my forums said - fanservice. But that was still incredibly strange.

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There is something off-putting about Yukio's ears at 00:46
Yeah, there is.

Oh. Oh. Oh FUCK no.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 19, 2012, 08:35:22 PM
^ I wonder if that's a mistake or if he's really turning into a demon.

He looks normal enough in the crane scene, which I assume is somewhere near the end. And having him show symptomes and then turn weird in the finale is something that's been done.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on November 19, 2012, 10:17:39 PM
Could the movie be taking place after the anime finale?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on November 19, 2012, 10:44:47 PM
0:26 - Bon playfully washing the boy's hair, wow it's the first time he's so carefree. Does people in Japan take baths together, naked?
0:27 - awww, Rin sleeping in one bed with a cute kid  :-*
0:32 - lol at Rin's "I don't trust you" face
0:44 - Arthur singing on a table with Shura commenting? :D
0:47 - DAT EARS
split second at 1:04 - the fights are gonna be epic
1:06 - for Shiemi/Yukio fans, I guess
1:13 - and for Shiemi/Rin
1:14 - you can't have enough of Rin playing daddy to a cute kid
1:19 - Shiemi/Yukio again
1:21 - me gusta


Yea, looks good.


P.S. Where did you see the crane?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 20, 2012, 12:42:08 AM
^ It's in this pic.
http://www.dm5.com/m114406/

The thing Yukio is sitting on.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on November 20, 2012, 11:37:54 AM
Considering Amaimon is definitely a hamster in the film (can't blame that one on the lighting or camera angles), some part of the anime is being taken into account. Although I am still holding out hope that most of it was Rin's nightmare as a result of bad food.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on November 20, 2012, 05:57:42 PM
I don't get it. What is wrong at 0:46-0:47?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on November 20, 2012, 06:33:21 PM
^ It's in this pic.
http://www.dm5.com/m114406/

The thing Yukio is sitting on.
Oh, I thought it appeared in the trailer.

Considering Amaimon is definitely a hamster in the film (can't blame that one on the lighting or camera angles), some part of the anime is being taken into account. Although I am still holding out hope that most of it was Rin's nightmare as a result of bad food.
Ok now, where in the trailer is Hamaimon?


I don't get it. What is wrong at 0:46-0:47?
There's close up of Yukio where you can clearly see that he's rocking pointy demon ears, looking absolutely gorgeous. However, it means that the movie may be a follow up to the anime most of us tried hard to push out of our minds.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on November 20, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
Considering Amaimon is definitely a hamster in the film (can't blame that one on the lighting or camera angles), some part of the anime is being taken into account. Although I am still holding out hope that most of it was Rin's nightmare as a result of bad food.
Ok now, where in the trailer is Hamaimon?
0:34 He's sitting on Mephisto's hand.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 20, 2012, 09:47:16 PM
Oh, I thought it appeared in the trailer.
It's in the trailer too (I think) at 1.18. But since we see Yukio with a broken arm afterwards, it's possible that it was in the middle of the film after all.

Also, isn't 1.14 a scene from the Phantom Train?

EDIT:
Is this real?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdjktltq251qklkoyo1_500.jpg)

It would be nice to see Yukio mess up at cooking...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Fullmetal on November 21, 2012, 05:37:10 AM
^yeah

But is that a demon on Rin's shoulder?
(red eyes)

Im not sure if that image is real or not
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 21, 2012, 05:54:54 AM
^ Well, the red eyes were in the trailer (0:18, 0:40, 1:01), so I suppose those are real enough.

And yeah, it's a demon. We assume Rin tries to protect it against the Order.

EDIT:
Could this be the opening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyF0iiBhus&NR=1
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on November 21, 2012, 05:52:17 PM
Could this be the opening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyF0iiBhus&NR=1
Maybe...?

I just found another funny picture.
(http://s1.zerochan.net/Ao.no.Exorcist.600.1343971.jpg)


I have noticed something. Wasn't the Phantom Train mentioned in the seven mysteries, too?
"5. Empty tram running in the middle of the night."
And doesn't exist a special chapter about the train?
I wonder how the Mangaka will solve that. We have got the movie, special chapter and a mystery about one subject.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Fullmetal on November 21, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
^ The picture didn't turn out right
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 22, 2012, 02:27:00 AM
Please tell me this isn't real.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdur95nkrY1rtctzxo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Fullmetal on November 22, 2012, 02:45:34 AM
^WOAH

I really hope it's not lol

Rin has a Shiemi and shura pillow?
(thats a little lot odd)

theres so many things wrong with that picture  :o
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on November 22, 2012, 07:36:03 AM
^ ^ It looks pretty official...

(And no love for Izumo?)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 22, 2012, 08:21:37 AM
^ Well, he only has two hands.

Would you have prefered if they had given her to Mephisto?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on November 22, 2012, 09:33:31 AM
^ You're making me think weird things now.

Is that bunny really a boy? It seems rather girlish
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on November 22, 2012, 06:33:05 PM
Oh my goodness, so awesome. From the fact that satan's sons have a pillow fight, through Rin playing a daddy, Mephisto's hot chick pillow, Rin with Shiemi and Shura, Bunny boy with a bunny girl pillow, Hamaimon with ice cream pillow to Yukio being a party popper, everything's pure comedy gold :D
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Fullmetal on November 22, 2012, 07:09:03 PM
Im wondering what Yukio is even doing
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 22, 2012, 07:52:17 PM
Is that bunny really a boy? It seems rather girlish
I thought so too. But it's been bathing and sleeping with teenage boys, so if it's a girl, body pillows are the least of our worries.

Im wondering what Yukio is even doing
Playing wet blanket, as usual.

I really want Rin to take him down a few pegs. I can totally see it:

Rin: Come on, Yukio! We're on school trip, aren't we? Stop acting like a teacher all the time.
Yukio: I am a teacher, nii-san. And someone needs to keep an eye on you.
Rin: Ah, but this isn't cram school. In normal high school, you're a student just like the rest of us.
Yukio: What does that matter? I don't have time to... hey!
Rin: *pulls Yukio onto the bed and starts tickling him*
Yukio: Nii-san, stop! I- hahahahaha!

Yes, I really want Yukio to be ticklish.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Jarield on November 25, 2012, 07:48:13 PM
I honestly don't like the character design of the child...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 25, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
^ Me neither.

But I kinda like the white-haired guy. I have a weakness for white-hairs. :)

Too bad he looks like a villain.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on November 26, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
^ He reminds me too much af Arthur.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 26, 2012, 11:59:21 PM
^ I don't think they look alike, but he's probably on the same side...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on November 28, 2012, 09:21:59 PM
^ Well, he only has two hands.

Would you have prefered if they had given her to Mephisto?
I'd kinda like to see it (again)
(http://i16.mangareader.net/ao-no-exorcist/34/ao-no-exorcist-3196453.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on November 28, 2012, 09:36:21 PM
^ Actually, we were talking about Izumo.

But I agree that giving Shura to Mephisto makes more sense (as long as we're talking about a pillow, that is).
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 01, 2012, 05:17:40 AM
Happy family?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mec4iv1NtB1rvfpwpo1_r1_1280.jpg)

As if there weren't already enough fics about Rin being the waifu. I wonder if they're doing this on purpose.

(Also, don't let your kid wear shorts in the snow. Seriously.)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: justicecadet on December 01, 2012, 05:30:28 AM
So, is Yukio a demon? His ears look ambiguously pointy. They're not as pointy as Rin's and we haven't seen a tail. Maybe he's just better at suppressing it. I don't even care if he is or isn't at this point I just hope they do a better job with his personality than the anime.
The site (http://www.ao-ex.com/) has been updated quite a bit since i last saw it. lots of gallery pics.

**the little demon is officially a boy named Usomaroうさ麻呂.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 02, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
^ Actually, we were talking about Izumo.
Oh. Right.

Cuteness of those pictures is killing me. I can't sense any insanity from the brothers so I'm not going to panic until anything's confirmed.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on December 02, 2012, 04:07:55 PM
Another one:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meeghtVaxs1rn600uo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on December 02, 2012, 06:08:26 PM
^ Is that another pointy ear on Yukio I spot? This is starting to worry me...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 02, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
^ What worries me more is lack of an awesome tail.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on December 03, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
^ Is that another pointy ear on Yukio I spot? This is starting to worry me...

Well, in the eloquent words of my sib, "shit got fucked". ._.

I know someone asked me to review the film when it comes out, but could someone watch it before me? I need to know if I need to ingest any substances so that I don't accidentally choke to death on my spit as I froth at the mouth from the BAD STORY.

On a serious note, I'm not seeing much of an interesting story here. It's similar to the first Bleach movie - new villains and sympathetic hero introduced, and (tragically) kill them off by the time it ends. At least I liked the sympathetic heroine in the first Bleach movie. Here... I kinda want to kill that bunny boy. I just dislike how it's being used to make the cast get all maternal over it. It ignores the complexities of the group dynamics that makes the series fun.

Plus - I see Yukio being a bitch, and the only time I find that acceptable is if he has been mentally tortured for longer than 30 minutes (AKA the Toudou fight, and even then stuff had to go down the shitter for it to impact him severely.) He's tough to break down, and I hate seeing him made into a Lawful Stupid/Strawman over something so insignificant.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 04, 2012, 08:37:19 PM
^ I won't judge it before I see it. It looks much better than the anime.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: justicecadet on December 05, 2012, 02:32:17 PM
I kind of agree with earthforge though. I know anime movies are usually random but I was hoping it would be so one-shot character centeric. Since it seems to be picking up from the anime I was hoping that they could at least explain more about the ending. I mean Yukio is still a demon so isn't that a problem? How is Rin taking this? Wait--was Mephistopheles even in the preview? I forget already.  (Huh my phone auto corrects mephisto to his full name. Weird)
Buuuuh. I was hoping that it might be more of an expansion on the anime. Or they could have done some Kyoto stuff.
I'll still probably watch it and enjoy it to some degree though. But I feel like anime movies still take a long time to get uploaded online or released over here.  Hmmm I'll just look at spoilers when they come out.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 05, 2012, 08:14:53 PM
Some of the ideas created for the anime had potential. Some made it even to the manga - like Yukio going demon or Rin cooking in the dormitory kitchen. Heck, even Grandpa Palpatine has something in common with the Toudou creep, that is, destructive effect on Yukio's brain sanity. If they keep the tone of the first half of the anime, they may make it work.

So I think movie!Yukio is a demon and Okumura family issues will be one of the themes in the movie. As for Mephy, it's better if they do not touch his plans, I don't want any parallel universe answers to one of the biggest mysteries in the manga.

The bunny boy may be too sugarcoated, but if he will make Rin a lil bit more mature, I'm in. As for Rin's classmates, they totally look like a background characters but it's a movie, a sidestory! For a movie you need an original character, dynamics of the group we know is meant to be explored in the manga. Otherwise it may be accidentally destroyed (like when Shiemi hugged demon!Rin, everyone immediately accepted him, Yukio wanted to kill Kuro etc.)

So I say let's wait and see. The pictures so far look cute and fun so the possibility of the movie being emo, pompous and ridiculous is rather low.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 05, 2012, 08:28:58 PM
^ Will it make Rin more mature though? Defending a kid against the world no matter the consequences sounds like something he would have done from the beginning.

But perhaps it will make Yukio a bit more... approachable?

As for Yukio turning demon, I have the feeling she played with that idea from the start. It's hard not to consider the possibility with a premise like that. He IS Satan's son, after all, be it obvious or not.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: RocksNBlocks on December 06, 2012, 04:22:13 AM
Can't wait for the main theme from UVERworld, they never disappoint. Song game is REVERSI, I think (Bakuman authors should sue).

The bunny kid creeps me out as well but Kazue absolutely loves them; there's so many random illustrations of rabbits on her blog and she even draws herself one. I think one of her previous manga's MC had bunny ears too.

Maybe you guys already know this, but the white-haired dude is from Taiwan's Branch (?) and he's super strong or something. Never would've guessed from his name and appearance.


Please tell me this isn't real.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdur95nkrY1rtctzxo1_1280.jpg)

I have loads more wallpapers like this one, where Rin and Co. are dressing up for Halloween, at a summer festival, drinking around a kotatsu, etc. I'm not sure where I can post them though; is this thread okay? (Sorry for double-posting.)

Double post merged. ~NeeNee
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 06, 2012, 04:51:19 AM
^ It depends. Are the wallpapers all from the movie? If they're just random illustrations, it's probably better to open a new thread for them. (I was planning to make a thread for all drawings and stuff that were released but not in the tankoubon, so I guess it fits there?)

In fact, even if they are all from the movie, you can still open a new thread. It's gonna be a lot easier to keep track of what we have if it's all in one place instead of spread out between discussions. And it's not like we have too many threads anyway.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: RocksNBlocks on December 06, 2012, 04:58:27 AM
^ It depends. Are the wallpapers all from the movie? If they're just random illustrations, it's probably better to open a new thread for them. (I was planning to make a thread for all drawings and stuff that were released but not in the tankoubon, so I guess it fits there?)

In fact, even if they are all from the movie, you can still open a new thread. It's gonna be a lot easier to keep track of what we have if it's all in one place instead of spread out between discussions. And it's not like we have too many threads anyway.

They're not from the movie; either they're DVD covers or really good fanart. They're too big to attach, but for the moment I have everything up on 4chan here, so drag 'em onto your desktops while you can:

https://boards.4chan.org/w/res/1441153#p1441175

Check this one out, though:

Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 11, 2012, 08:13:38 PM
So awesome, thank you!!!
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on December 12, 2012, 04:00:36 AM
Some of the ideas created for the anime had potential. Some made it even to the manga - like Yukio going demon or Rin cooking in the dormitory kitchen.

Those two were in the works from the beginning. The "Kuro is Lost" bonus chapter showed Rin cooking before the anime. Yukio has been heavily foreshadowed to have problems since chapter 15 and that was before the anime.

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Heck, even Grandpa Palpatine has something in common with the Toudou creep, that is, destructive effect on Yukio's brain sanity.

Except for the fact that Palpatine was so unbelievable. Toudou only got to Yukio because he did a prolonged sanity assault. Even then Toudou needed a little serendipity (the blue eyes thing) to really get Yukio riled up.

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So I think movie!Yukio is a demon and Okumura family issues will be one of the themes in the movie.

Honestly I hope not. I can't even watch the last episodes because it makes me gag.

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The bunny boy may be too sugarcoated, but if he will make Rin a lil bit more mature, I'm in.

He's a walking plot device. I despise characters that are just a walking plot function.

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For a movie you need an original character

Not entirely. You can synthesize a movie from purely the given characters. Case in point: prequel movies. I would take "Rin and Yukio's First Christmas" any day over this movie.

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So I say let's wait and see. The pictures so far look cute and fun so the possibility of the movie being emo, pompous and ridiculous is rather low.

Yukio is often misused to convey pompous, emo and ridiculous.

So nope, not inspired to see the new movie.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 12, 2012, 04:11:45 AM
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Heck, even Grandpa Palpatine has something in common with the Toudou creep, that is, destructive effect on Yukio's brain sanity.

Except for the fact that Palpatine was so unbelievable. Toudou only got to Yukio because he did a prolonged sanity assault. Even then Toudou needed a little serendipity (the blue eyes thing) to really get Yukio riled up.
I agree. Given how easily anime!Yukio broke down, a talking toad could have done the trick. Toudou is a bit more of a character than that, and I don't believe she only started on the idea after the anime.

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So I think movie!Yukio is a demon and Okumura family issues will be one of the themes in the movie.

Honestly I hope not. I can't even watch the last episodes because it makes me gag.
If Yukio is a demon, I hope it doesn't come into play too much. He and Rin have enough to fight over without that (who wants to bet he will be against keeping the demon kid at first?).

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So nope, not inspired to see the new movie.

Ah, but I want to read your review, earthforge!

I'd watch it only for that. :)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 12, 2012, 09:38:33 PM
Gah, you're both so pessimistic. I still think the stupidest and most overused idea may work if it's well made.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on December 13, 2012, 08:29:21 AM
^ I think they have a reason to be pessimistic after the anime. I wouldn't call that 'well made' ._. I'm still going to watch the movie though.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 14, 2012, 01:57:02 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ad3cf98546e2217a3de43e0c6e292918/tumblr_mew57k7v4d1r7ib92o1_400.png)

Bunny is nasty.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 17, 2012, 04:09:41 AM
So...

... does anyone expect to hear the words "If father had thought like that, we wouldn't be here now!" in this movie?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on December 17, 2012, 08:23:35 AM
^ I could see Rin wanting to take care of Bunny Boy, but Yukio'll be against it for whatever reason and they'll end up in each others faces (again).
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 17, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
^ I wonder if their relationship will be painted any diffferent after the anime finale.

Also, about Yukio being a demon: isn't he walking around with his arm in a bandage for quite a while? If he were a full-blown demon, shouldn't it have healed, like, real fast?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 25, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
New trailer.
http://www.ao-ex.com/trailer/index.html

... This looks suspiciously much like The Phantom Train. Are they recycling extra chapters now?

(Why do I even ask? They recycled the Kuro story and the omake. We should've seen this coming.)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on December 26, 2012, 12:58:15 AM
It looks like another Gehenna-is-invading-Assiah-crisis... At least Shirou's in it.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on December 26, 2012, 01:03:28 AM
The train scene obviously looks like it was heavily influenced by the Phantom Train, but only that. I guess it will only make up ONE of the action scenes.

The rest is all movie-original material, which is what actually terrifies me.

But still, best to be optimistic in the face of Armageddon.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on December 26, 2012, 01:22:16 AM
You should try looking at the gallery (http://www.ao-ex.com/gallery/index.html). Yukio's ears look a bit pointy in some of those sketches, don't they?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on December 26, 2012, 05:49:06 AM
Noticed that ages ago.

Obviously they are keeping the anime plot-line, while reducing Yukio to some quarter-breed demon thing . Satan's blood is present but not as influential as it is in Rin's.

From what I can see anyway.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on December 26, 2012, 06:48:37 AM
Here's what I think is going on:

The Phantom Train will be used as a flashback sequence in coordination with a theme in the movie, just like the flashback with Shiro. Flashforward to the end of the anime when Rin adopts the demon kiddie and Yukio is a demon. Or something happens to land them in that circumstance.

So Yukio is still in the state he was in at the end of the anime. *involuntary shivering*

I still want to strangle the bunny kid. I am sickened at the appeal to my maternal instincts. (That's hard to do, by the way. I went into complete spasms when the hedgehog almost died in The Hobbit.)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 26, 2012, 11:59:13 PM
^ I don't think it's a flashback. The red monster thing they're fighting is also attacking the Taiwanese guy, and he wasn't there before.

The part where he's keeping Yukio from falling is cute. ^^ Reminds me of this (http://hayatokazuki.tumblr.com/post/22368593245).

EDIT:
Subtitled versions of the trailers:
Trailer 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrF5XBtsf0Q)
Trailer 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r_PkbD2PTw)

So they're repeating the argument from the train, and Bunny is screwing with their heads.

Hmm.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on December 27, 2012, 12:54:49 AM
^ Sigh... Everyone seems to be against Rin... Again.
I think Arthur and that Taiwanese guy are going to become good friends.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on December 27, 2012, 11:16:07 AM
New trailer.
http://www.ao-ex.com/trailer/index.html
Thanks for the link.
Wow, this trailer looks a lot better. It's a shame that it will take a long time until we can see the movie with subtitles and stuff.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 27, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
There's one little thing that annoys me in this trailer - it's Bon's cheerful 'XD' face.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on December 27, 2012, 07:57:08 PM
Only person in the trailer I agree with is Mephisto. "Now then, shall we kill it?" Obviously. You call yourselves exorcists, do you not? Than get to WORK.

I am still wary of Yukio's state. And admittedly, I agree with his more assholic "exorcists only do this". I seem to agree with him whenever he's an asshole (which seems to be when he's most honest).

Bunnyboy makes everyone forget the "bad" things? Well that's fricking ambiguous. If the town is doomed with it alive... well, might as well slaughter it.
 
And what the hell are the reinforcements doing?! Who got them on the fricking payroll?! Useless!
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 28, 2012, 02:49:03 AM
The movie's coming out tomorrow... should I make a new topic for spoilers, or do we keep using this one?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c7848c9a17e0a9dcdd1643360ad5ba72/tumblr_mfp9s5b98h1qavr2xo1_500.jpg)

I never knew the city was this big. And what's with the creepy balloons?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Buttercup on December 28, 2012, 02:49:46 AM
Well I can only hope they have this movie subbed and out for my birthday in July! *Crosses fingers* I cant wait.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on December 28, 2012, 08:03:03 AM
And the launch-trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-RZ-ydl8xGc) is out.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 28, 2012, 08:38:10 AM
^ It's the same one I posted three days ago.

I wonder how long it will take until we get new scenes from the fans.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on December 28, 2012, 06:40:08 PM
It's a good likelihood that there'll be a pirated copy (someone filming the film with a digital camera) in lousy quality in about a month. Then four months later, the movie on dvd is released. Optimistically the dvd-quality version is placed within a day on sharing sites. Then it's up to any subbed groups.

That's at least how it went for the first Bleach movie (which was a similar plot and all: memories, forgetting, etc.) Wish I could help in the ripping side, but I can't legally.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on December 29, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
A review with some new informations:
http://codedmemories.tumblr.com/post/39048213002/ao-no-exorcist-the-movie-review (http://codedmemories.tumblr.com/post/39048213002/ao-no-exorcist-the-movie-review)

Edit:
http://dgshibiki.tumblr.com/post/39134379994 (http://dgshibiki.tumblr.com/post/39134379994)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Anya on December 29, 2012, 09:44:42 PM
Edit:
http://dgshibiki.tumblr.com/post/39134379994 (http://dgshibiki.tumblr.com/post/39134379994)
"The movie doesn’t take place after the TV series and is a standalone work."

Smart move.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on December 30, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ddbd60803c639dc5827e97ab7c20bffb/tumblr_mfp93ifuIo1r7ib92o1_500.gif)

He looks pretty tidy for someone falling off a building surrounded by demons.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: hijikata on December 30, 2012, 10:28:26 AM
If it doesn't take after the anime then I am even more excited!

I don't have high expectations for it though.. so hopefully I can't be disappointed.

So, is Yukio a demon or not? Is it just suddenly slightly pointy ears. I mean I'm assuming if it doesn't take after the anime then the ending to it was voided.. so he isn't?? Also the fact that his arm injury didn't heal quickly...

Though I am really liking UVERworld - REVERSI! Least I know the music won't disappoint. I wonder if there's any new soundtracks...

Though the anime scripters never seem to capture the characters properly.. that's what I dislike the most..
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: iceberry on January 01, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
i'm very excited to see it, even more so now that i know it's a standalone work.
also i am loving the new soundtrack for it, i think tracks one and six are probably my favorite.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on January 01, 2013, 10:36:21 PM
also i am loving the new soundtrack for it, i think tracks one and six are probably my favorite.
*_* Could you tell me where I can find the new soundtrack? I love soundtracks.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: iceberry on January 02, 2013, 02:10:39 AM
i got it here! it's really great imo, a few of the songs are disappointing (namely COAL TAR is actually just a remix of the symphonic suit devil fourth movement) but the songs that aren't disappointing are quite the opposite!
http://grupodinamo.blogspot.com/2012/12/ao-no-exorcist-movie-original-soundtrack.html (http://grupodinamo.blogspot.com/2012/12/ao-no-exorcist-movie-original-soundtrack.html)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on January 11, 2013, 01:37:29 PM
Soo, I've listened the movie soundtrack (on Youtube). The tracks are not that good like the anime soundtrack according to my opinion. I like only five tracks.

I've just found the translation to the last trailer:
http://yoshi-x2.livejournal.com/20098.html (http://yoshi-x2.livejournal.com/20098.html)

Edit: The first ten minutes of the movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bIuk6I8sdw&list=PLmO7CpnmOQc7EMqLMUc1U8J00AuYc0KfZ&index=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bIuk6I8sdw&list=PLmO7CpnmOQc7EMqLMUc1U8J00AuYc0KfZ&index=1)

Awesome!
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on January 25, 2013, 11:53:39 PM
So that's why they didn't use the Phantom Train in the anime. They were adapting it for the movie. My god, it's beautiful. The textures are incredible.

I love the contrast of Rin and Yukio with their younger selves: Yukio went from adorable little boy to stick-up-butt jerk and Rin went from also adorable little boy to delinquent idiot.

The ART guyz.

Shiemi and nii-chan are cute. Shura's sexah. Shiro is OMFG SHIRRROOOO
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on January 26, 2013, 02:13:10 AM
Lol, the biting handle was new.

It looks nice enough, but I don't really like their interaction so far. I didn't like it in the chapter and I didn't like it in the anime, so I guess it's not surprising... it's at least better than the finale though.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on January 27, 2013, 09:45:48 PM
I agree with earhforge. The background details (for example the academy) are gorgeous.

And this are the credits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmQE-n2204 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmQE-n2204)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on January 27, 2013, 10:00:52 PM
Rin sure almost falls off buildings a lot...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on January 28, 2013, 07:09:47 AM
Haha, the nomming doorknob. I found that hilarious. Rin is certainly a clumsy oaf. Funny enough, Shiemi-famous-klutz is graceful compared to him.

The artists also loved extended arm/hand sequences, which made the characters look like they had pole sized arms.

Now that I have context, the character of Usamaro is fascinating - a demon that messes everything around it by warping reality/people to play with it. This gives the creative staff a lot of freedom with content. So now the scene with the boys in the bath and Usamaro makes sense.

I love the credit theme song. Really catchy.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on February 04, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
Bunny boy is naughty xD By the way, look at Shima's reaction.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2c6e79820d02c965c66595fe208667ac/tumblr_mho8ga9PfU1r7ib92o1_r1_500.gif)
source (http://shokiin.tumblr.com/post/42236861321)

And a cute scene although I don't get the context:
http://shokiin.tumblr.com/post/42248095008 (http://shokiin.tumblr.com/post/42248095008)
I can imagine that Yukio says a lot of "Nii-San"'s xD
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on February 04, 2013, 09:13:02 PM
^ I wonder how efficient that cage is when you put a son of Satan in it.

(As I understand it: Rin took the demon into his bed, Yukio complains that he should have stayed in the cage, Rin goes "Fine, then I'll sleep in the cage too." Yukio utters some last lines of protest and then gives up.)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: RocksNBlocks on February 05, 2013, 06:28:19 AM
Dunno if this has been posted yet, but this is footage from an event held a week before the film premiered. JunJun, Rin, and the VA for that Taiwanese exorcist are there live and they do VA shenanigans. No subs, but it's entertaining and they show some short clips too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlhIrRcLEbE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlhIrRcLEbE)
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jYxilOTGWk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jYxilOTGWk)
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLcrDqDpVyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLcrDqDpVyE)
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nual7UlPpU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nual7UlPpU)
Part 4
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on February 11, 2013, 10:49:13 PM
Some more clips we haven't seen before (I think).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xKdJCGDZWE
I like how they've done the lift. Is Angel showing off his moves at the festival? :)) And Amaimon is back to normal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmQE-n2204
Yukio-with-broken-arm needs to give it a rest. I wonder who the busty lady is? (not Shura) Man, talk about bad coal tar infestation. Somebody get the bug spray.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on February 11, 2013, 11:44:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xKdJCGDZWE
I like how they've done the lift. Is Angel showing off his moves at the festival? :)) And Amaimon is back to normal!
Aaah! Only two seconds or so, but aah!
Lol, the Rin/Shura scene xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmQE-n2204
Yukio-with-broken-arm needs to give it a rest. I wonder who the busty lady is? (not Shura) Man, talk about bad coal tar infestation. Somebody get the bug spray.
I've already posted this one. I like the song. Does anyone know the name of the song title?

It won't be long before we've watched the whole movie in pieces on Youtube xD
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on February 12, 2013, 01:25:27 AM
^ I think the song's called 'dedicate', but I can't read Japanese so I have no idea who sings it.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on February 12, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
^ I think the song's called 'dedicate', but I can't read Japanese so I have no idea who sings it.
Thank you ^^ Ah, I've found it. It is Yukio's character single (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kWJfv9p-A).
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on March 04, 2013, 02:03:35 PM
I've found on tumblr a lot of Yukio/Cheng Long (chinese guy) pictures. I'm wondering whether there is an ambiguous scene...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on March 04, 2013, 08:17:50 PM
^ I doubt it. Tumblr is stuffed full of Yukio x Rin pics as well, and unless I missed something big, nothing has happened there either.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: earthforge on March 04, 2013, 08:29:52 PM
^ I doubt it. Tumblr is stuffed full of Yukio x Rin pics as well, and unless I missed something big, nothing has happened there either.

... Three words: belligerent sexual tension. A lot of fangirls see it in everything. Yukio and Rin do frequently argue. I see it as evidence of a mostly destroyed relationship. Others see it as "aw they love each other." I try not to judge... but I really cannot stand fanworks underestimating how much the Okumura twins are emotional wrecks.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on March 04, 2013, 08:45:01 PM
^ ... I'd say half of those fanworks make our current twins look like happy, healthy youngsters, to be honest. Especially Yukio usually doesn't come out well.

But yeah, they pair everything. I've gotten used to it. I'm actually surprised I haven't spotted any Arthur x Rin stuff yet.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on March 05, 2013, 09:55:08 AM
I meant, it's curious that it's very difficult to find a fanart/fanfiction except Rin/Yukio. Rin has a lot of partners (Shiemi, Bon, Mephisto, Amaimon, Shima,...), but Yukio? Nope. That's why I was surprised.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on March 05, 2013, 10:47:16 AM
^ Good point. I guess it's because they're both the smart & quiet type? If the other guy is smart & quiet, that is. I know nothing about him except that he's in the movie.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on March 12, 2013, 08:22:57 PM
I don't think anyone will be surprised about this, but apparently those two fight.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6309508bce499e97a10a81eb16b66274/tumblr_mjiymyGEIT1rbf00vo2_500.png) (http://the-eyes-of-pandora.tumblr.com/post/45157240158/just-screen-shots-from-youtube-3-not-gunna-lie)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/2de340f88c9e0912833750271c736721/tumblr_mjiymyGEIT1rbf00vo1_500.png)
 (http://the-eyes-of-pandora.tumblr.com/post/45157240158/just-screen-shots-from-youtube-3-not-gunna-lie)
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on March 12, 2013, 08:41:59 PM
I just found this picture as well, but you were faster xD
Btw, does anyone know who the voice actor of the chinese guy is? I know the voice actor of bunny boy is the same for Happy from Fairy Tail...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on March 13, 2013, 07:47:24 AM
^ Chen-Long is voiced by Hidenobu Kiuchi (http://myanimelist.net/people/174/Hidenobu_Kiuchi). The Queen of Tsundere (http://myanimelist.net/people/8/Rie_Kugimiya) is voicing Usamaro
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on March 26, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
It's not very helpful, but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

http://www.fandompost.com/2013/03/26/potential-aniplex-japanese-release-slate-revealed/
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on April 01, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0948aa9fd1160ecfac5a1f46ab9f2ab6/tumblr_mip5g1Kdmz1rkt9eho1_500.gif)
http://berserkexorcist.tumblr.com/post/43842814095/blow-dry-my-hair-rin-tt-tt

Still no news yet, is there?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: keemew2 on April 01, 2013, 11:35:24 PM
Depressing :(
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Blightstrider on April 02, 2013, 06:04:36 AM
^ Chen-Long is voiced by Hidenobu Kiuchi (http://myanimelist.net/people/174/Hidenobu_Kiuchi). The Queen of Tsundere (http://myanimelist.net/people/8/Rie_Kugimiya) is voicing Usamaro

Dude play Hei from Darker than Black. Hei!

That guy was awesome.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on May 18, 2013, 12:51:20 AM
News for the US!

http://lesleysmusings.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/us-premiere-of-blue-exorcist-film-at-anime-expo/
http://www.anime-expo.org/2013/05/anime-expo-announces-us-premiere-of-blue-exorcist-the-movie-with-character-designer-keigo-sasaki-as-guest-of-honor/
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Wikkelsoee on May 18, 2013, 10:30:18 AM
^ How lucky. I wish they'd do something like that in Europe
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on May 18, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
^ The anime designer has been on conventions here to give signatures. But I guess the convention they picked now much be a really big one...
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on May 21, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
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Ao no Exorcist movie is up for preorders on Amiami!

Both DVD and Bluray versions are available, as well as the chance to order the limited special edition of the movie, which will come with:

-Kazue Katoh original illustration digipack & 3-sided case style
-Aya Yajima original short novel
-Original drama CD
-Special booklet
-Art setting materials
-Illustration postcard
-Film slip
-Audio commentary
-Bonus footage

DVD movie - about 30.97 USD

Special Edition DVD movie - about 57.07 USD

Blueray movie - about 41.58 USD

Special Edition Blueray movie - about 69.34 USD

-

Note:

- Prices do not include shipping

- These are preorders, so the movie will not actually get shipped to you until the official release, which is July 3rd

- According to the information on the official movie website, the movie will NOT come with English subtitles!! Japanese subtitles only!

However it IS likely that an English subbed (perhaps even dubbed, but that’s just speculation) version of the movie will be released in America via Aniplex, but a date has yet to be announced for that.

Source (http://demonexorcist.tumblr.com/post/50922127556/ao-no-exorcist-movie-is-up-for-preorders-on)

About 31$ for a DVD!? o.O What is "Aya Yajima original short novel"?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Mimiroru on May 21, 2013, 02:40:50 PM
^ Aya Yajima is the writer of Weekend Hero and Home Sweet Home. maybe it's a novel about Rin and bunny's daily life.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: keemew2 on May 31, 2013, 07:54:41 AM
AWAAAAHHH!!!! So not fair! Everything always happens at times and places when adn where I can't make them!!! It makes me wanna CRY~! :'( :'( :'( :'(
It may not seem that bad, Cali only being one state away, but that's a long drive. But even if I could I couldn't afford the gas. Well, not me anyway, not that it matters because I'm not gonna be able to go anyway because we'll have moved to Alabama by then. Which means I'll be even FARTHER away then just by staying in Oregon. IT"S JUST NOT FAIR!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on June 21, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Thanks, Mimiroru, for the information.

^ How lucky. I wish they'd do something like that in Europe
I don't know if you're pleased with it, but today I've heard the movie is going to show in some German cities. August-September at the fantasy film festival and in original with engl. sub. As for me I won't miss this chance to see AnE on big screen.
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on June 21, 2013, 05:56:14 PM
What is the name of the movie, in fact?

Did they just call it "Blue Exorcist Movie"?
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: Paradox on June 21, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
Eh, yes, they did. Actually it's "Blue Exorcist: The Movie"
Title: Re: Anime Movie
Post by: NeeNee on June 21, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
Well, they certainly didn't overwork themselves trying to be imaginative. ::)

I guess I'll put it in the title anyway...
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on July 07, 2013, 03:02:56 AM
Some spoilers from the movie.
http://shokiin.tumblr.com/post/54652494701/so-basically-long-post-spoilers-about-aoex

I'm actually most curious about "Shima holding an insect."
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Paradox on July 07, 2013, 09:29:17 AM
May I post a link to the movie?
http://www.nosub.tv/watch/60003.html (http://www.nosub.tv/watch/60003.html)
Unfortunately, there are no subtitles. I haven't watched it yet because I'm waiting for the subs.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on July 07, 2013, 07:27:53 PM
Yeah it may be worth watching with subs XD I watched majority of it raw but I'm saving the ending for when the subs come out... I'm soo itching to watch more!! >~<

Some scenes with Usamaro really caught me off guard though O.o

Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: GolPhee on July 11, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
Thanks for the link! It's fairly easy to follow what's happening even raw.

My thoughts . .

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on July 16, 2013, 01:53:38 AM
Spanish version, anyone?
http://animeflv.net/ver/ao-no-exorcist-movie-1.html

... I hope Mephisto has good insurance. 20 minutes in, and his students & staff have already broken down half the city.

EDIT:
(click to show/hide)

And once again I am surprised by my ability to understand rudimentary Spanish. It really is a lot like Latin and French. Though I didn't get some of the conversations at the end.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Paradox on July 21, 2013, 08:37:28 PM
A subbed version is available on animefreak:
http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/ao-no-exorcist-movie-episode-1-online (http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/ao-no-exorcist-movie-episode-1-online)
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on July 22, 2013, 03:13:58 AM
A subbed version is available on animefreak:
http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/ao-no-exorcist-movie-episode-1-online (http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/ao-no-exorcist-movie-episode-1-online)

WOOHOO!
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: earthforge on July 22, 2013, 09:08:13 AM
I came. I saw. I ranted.

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Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on July 23, 2013, 03:53:20 AM
I came. I saw. I ranted.

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Most of that made me laugh sooo hard XD

Hey, wanna see something in the background of the bathing scene that I noticed?
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I was pausing the movie for a bit randomly taking snapshots XD
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on July 23, 2013, 03:14:17 PM
English sub

http://www.animefave.net/ao-no-exorcist-movie/2/
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Paradox on July 26, 2013, 09:05:27 PM
I came. I saw. I ranted.

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Most of that made me laugh sooo hard XD
Same here xD

It is just me, or is the sub from animefave.net kinda bad?
So...all in all...the movie is not that bad.

Oh, about Liu and Yukio...
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Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on July 27, 2013, 02:11:07 AM
I came. I saw. I ranted.

I love how you repeated pretty much all the things I said. :P

Some stuff I hadn't commented on:

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And my reactions upon second viewing:

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For the shippers, what does this say?

(http://i1.pixiv.net/img67/img/dai-co/32741013_p0.jpg)
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=32741013

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ea3fb93925e422dff2d7fdadeb95f3b3/tumblr_migr5p4RI51s49shro1_400.jpg)
http://agunslingerwithcalm.tumblr.com/post/45145228449


Hey, wanna see something in the background of the bathing scene that I noticed?
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I was pausing the movie for a bit randomly taking snapshots XD

The 'img' button only works for pictures that already have a link on the internet. If you want to upload something from your computer, use attachments (below the textbox) instead.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: earthforge on July 27, 2013, 03:20:23 AM
- So what does Shura actually do? Do those colourful seals serve a purpose, or are they just decoration?

The seals are supposed to block demons from entering the Academy Town. Remember when Rin et al were sent to check the Academy seals during the Gale fiasco in the anime? Same kind of seals. That's why Usamaro did so much damage by taking away the exorcists' memories of their duties. The exorcists weren't able to do their job, so all the demons took advantage of the barrier failing.

- So, who had the brilliant idea of sending one juvenile teacher and two students after a demon train that runs on top of the entire city?

It made more sense when the train just went through a dark tunnel where Rin could use his abilities without a problem. But then we wouldn't have the drama of the carriage flying off the rails while Rin does some midair acrobatics.

- Wait, so Rin's powers are already widely known? Then why the hell does he not use his sword?

I am so confused now. The Phantom Train short clearly took place before the Camp Arc. But the movie seemed to take place just after the Camp Arc, maybe after the Gale Arc. I don't remember if Yukio told Rin to not use his flames in the movie.

- Why did that thing ever possess a train to begin with? It's much faster on its own.

Motivation? For the CthuluTrain? Nah. Plus, having a demon with intelligent motives trying to be evil would undermine the theme of the movie which is that if a demon causes a lot of damage but is cute then we can forgive it.

Maybe you should check on him before he goes splat.
- Oh, he survived on his own. And instantly gets demoted. Seriously, Rin, you could have been a little more subtle about that. (This scene is so anime!Rin)

Yukio had every right to bitch at Rin in the anime for this. I now think that it's completely acceptable for him to go batshit and want to murder Rin in the anime because Rin is ridiculously callous.

- I still don't understand where the coal tar suddenly come from.

The broken barriers that the exorcists stopped maintaining.

- See? I knew Tai guy was nice. Even though I didn't get that scene last time.
- And Yukio is still an a$$hole. The anime can't give him a break, can they?

Tai is cool and has a sense of humor without being entirely dickish. Yukio could learn a lot from him.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on July 27, 2013, 04:19:41 AM
- Wait, so Rin's powers are already widely known? Then why the hell does he not use his sword?

I am so confused now. The Phantom Train short clearly took place before the Camp Arc. But the movie seemed to take place just after the Camp Arc, maybe after the Gale Arc. I don't remember if Yukio told Rin to not use his flames in the movie.
He didn't, or at least, it wasn't in any subtitles I saw.

So apparently Rin just.. forgot to unsheat or something? Also, someone explain to me how he could defeat that thing with one slash towards the end of the movie, while his sword attacks didn't do squad in the beginning.

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- I still don't understand where the coal tar suddenly come from.

The broken barriers that the exorcists stopped maintaining.
Yeah, but why are there so many in one place? We've seen plenty of locations without barriers that were kinda swarming, but never to the point that people had to evacuate.

Speaking of which, how do you even explain people that they need to evacuate because of something they can't see or believe in? Or are all people at the festival exorcists? Or can normal people see demons in this universe?

On the other hand, this could explain the lack of running.

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- See? I knew Tai guy was nice. Even though I didn't get that scene last time.
- And Yukio is still an a$$hole. The anime can't give him a break, can they?

Tai is cool and has a sense of humor without being entirely dickish. Yukio could learn a lot from him.
He really went surprisingly easy on Rin. I was expecting him to question his loyalty and stuff (honestly, the son of Satan defending a demon is kind of asking for it), but the worst he ever did was mocking his low rank.

Perhaps they didn't want him to be too much like Arthur? Speaking of which, I don't understand why they didn't just use Arthur for the role. Except for that last scene, it wouldn't have made much of a difference, and then they could actually have had some serious tension between him and Rin.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on July 27, 2013, 04:26:27 AM
Ok, I give up, I cannot find the manga extra about the Phantom Train, I went to the mangafox forums but the mediafire download links are broken... I think I came across a Chinese? raw...

I personally liked the movie, the soundtrack and the details in the festival decorations.

Sure, it didn't have as much action as I would have wanted and the Tai guy felt kind of filerish... but I liked it all in all.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on July 27, 2013, 05:00:15 PM
^ I don't think it was ever scanlated.

And I just found out that apparently 'Phantom Train' is a synonym for the trains used during the Holocaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_train), which is just what we needed to add that extra touch of suck to the situation. -_-
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on August 01, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
[qoute]Hey, wanna see something in the background of the bathing scene that I noticed?
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I was pausing the movie for a bit randomly taking snapshots XD

The 'img' button only works for pictures that already have a link on the internet. If you want to upload something from your computer, use attachments (below the textbox) instead. [/qoute]

Strange - I did post it to the internet o-o
I'll post it below then
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on August 12, 2013, 04:28:37 AM
Just gonna say that if someone over here hasn't gotten access tot he Phantom Train manga chapter yet, I found an scanlation in Spanish, it's not much, but you might wanna see it. Not posting link because of copyright, PM me if you want it.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on September 20, 2013, 07:50:43 PM
Looks like even the translators were bored by some parts of the movie. :P

http://raisofer.tumblr.com/post/61685213976/do-you-remember-how-yesterday-i-was-complaining
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on January 12, 2014, 11:02:58 AM
I think this movie is like....Fridge derp. It was fun to watch and I loved it while I was watching it. More than anything I enjoyed seeing the characters move and talk again. And then at the end of the movie I realized "hey, this entire thing was filled with stupid!" But i still enjoyed it.

Rin friggin killed people. Yeah, I also like Yukio's argument a lot better here. I can't blame him for being angry about that.

Yukio didn't seem like that much of an asshole. He was a bit more Rin! Bad! Schedule! Do your homework! NagNagNagNag. He does act like that sometimes in the manga too....right? And he had his priorities straight!

Yay Liu! Liu is awesome. Before I watched I thought he would be an Arthur knockoff. He looked like one. Happy to be wrong there.

But in all honesty, thinking about it now. Kazue Katou definitely is not the one who designed him. Physically he looks out of place. Arthur is an idiot, vain, and a tool, so he has every excuse to pretend to be a bishonen-type character. Liu...not so much. Also apparently only demons can have weird (light blue?) hair colors, it's weird that he would have such a hair color. But his personality was great.

Usamaro was annoying once he started talking.

Usamaro, he can do good things. Imagine if he were to ever show up in the manga, and to selectively eat a few memories of Yukio's. Like the BEI. or Toudou. Because we all know nothing will happen anyway. :| The issue is discretion! You can't make people forget their jobs! Or their lost loved ones!
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on January 12, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
Oh no, no way. Eating Yukio's memories of Toudou would be a disaster. That would mean that Yukio would be totally clueless and vulnerable again, while Toudou has gotten more experienced in how to break him.

As for the fridge derp, I'm afraid I'm not so good at suspending my disbelief... I noticed those plotholes right away. :-\
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on January 12, 2014, 10:28:53 PM
A quick-witted person I am not.

I started noticing after the coal tars. Before that I guess I thought it wasn't enough to pay attention to.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 06, 2014, 05:28:58 AM
Summary of the beginning of the short story included in the movie's novel book:

http://shakoujirei.tumblr.com/post/75771606783/souvenir-in-blue-exorcist-the-movie-1

Author told me he would be uploading more as he read it, so you may want to check on him.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 06, 2014, 05:32:01 AM
John? Seriously?! XD

Hm, is this legit? I've seen people make up random crap for his past on their tumblr RP blogs before.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 06, 2014, 05:32:44 AM
Thanks for the share, Archer!

Seems like this is the same as the drama CD?

Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 06, 2014, 05:33:59 AM
The subject came up as we were discussing an starter. He sounded legit enough, I asked him to post it as he read...
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 06, 2014, 05:38:27 AM
So far it does seem the same as the drama CD that came with the movie, but it'd be possible for the story to be the same as that.
After all, Top of the Ranking: Boys Be Ambitious! had influence of Rin's cool dudes ranking, and then Rhapsody in Blue is the exact same as in teh rescue team one Weekend Hero.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 06, 2014, 05:39:40 AM
(Is there a translation for the drama cd somewhere?)
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 06, 2014, 05:42:52 AM
No, I uploaded it to my channel. I can only understand enough to get an idea of what's sort of happening so...

But here, part 1, we get him answering the phone, same as written:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4omRBSHyIXU

*phone rings*
Liu: Shut up..
Brother: Nii-san, (long time no see?)

Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 06, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
Ok, this is when I ask what exactly is a drama CD?
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 06, 2014, 05:50:51 AM
A drama CD is like...anime without visuals I guess? It's an extra storyline with the voice actors. And yes, it's indeed official stuff.

There are 5 Ao no Exorcist drama CDs out right now.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 06, 2014, 05:56:29 AM
And here I lived all my life thinking it was a strange way of saying soundtrack....
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 06, 2014, 05:59:06 AM
Well then, we need to have you listen to them!! Mwhahaha!

Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 06, 2014, 06:00:20 AM
I will listen to them, even if I don't understand a word. I will.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 06, 2014, 06:02:32 AM
There are translations for Boys Be Ambitious and for Father's Day Once More.
Rhapsody in Blue you can just follow the translation for rescue team in Weekend Hero.

Only the movie companion and A Little Wish in the Holiday don't have anything
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 07, 2014, 11:53:01 PM
Here is another part of the translation of the story:

http://shakoujirei.tumblr.com/post/75941480410/in-souvenir-in-blue-exorcist-the-movie-1-yukio

I listened to the Drama CD, all I caught was that he answers his brother's call, then has another call by Mephisto? (it sounded like his voice) and a dialogue about Yukio (I think they say Okumura-sensei)
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 08, 2014, 12:02:44 AM
That's it. I want Cheng-Long to appear in the manga. Don't make the movie canon...just Cheng-Long. That is all.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 08, 2014, 12:11:02 AM
Lol, yes, that would be fun to watch... or a character that's basically him with another name I don't care...
 
It might happen since the Illuminati declared war to all the branches.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on February 08, 2014, 12:56:51 PM
That's it. I want Cheng-Long to appear in the manga. Don't make the movie canon...just Cheng-Long. That is all.

That's what I've been saying since the beginning.

I'm still so sorry this isn't real.

Don't freak out! It's just a fanart, which I'd like to share.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9d9e6c90095add47422e561fe0d99156/tumblr_mpsgdaqkjc1ro7pi7o1_500.png)
Source (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=33664651)
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 08, 2014, 06:05:28 PM
Now that his sense of humor is more warped than I expected, I support it even more.

*saved*
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 08, 2014, 06:42:19 PM
...and now I wanna re-watch the movie just for Liu....
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Elaedan on February 08, 2014, 09:45:52 PM
I like Liu very much, too handsome and interesting guy so I would like to see him again~ (Why I feel that he is the better version of Arthur? XD)
I dunno why I haven't seen any cosplays of him...
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 08, 2014, 10:23:09 PM
Anyway, so he is 30, not 25?
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 08, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
Whose age are you asking?
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 08, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
Liu. The entirety of Tumblr seemed to believe he was 25.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 08, 2014, 11:12:22 PM
According to that translation he is 30, I had the impression he was an adult as in older than Rin and Yukio but not that much... I think most people guessed 25 because he is the same rank as Shura.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 08, 2014, 11:36:17 PM
Yeah, I was assuming 30 too. John is younger, right?
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 08, 2014, 11:44:44 PM
It says he is studying abroad so I guess he is younger, the voice on the drama CD makes him sound like on his early teens.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 09, 2014, 12:20:38 AM
Oh wow. I thought perhaps he was in his early 20's.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 09, 2014, 12:47:38 AM
Well, he could eb attending a foreign college, that's not rare either.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 09, 2014, 01:21:14 AM
Why would he be studying abroad in middle/high school?  :o
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 09, 2014, 01:35:56 AM
Dunno, some people send their children abroad for high school. I follow a writer on DA, who is from India but her parents sent her to study to Britain.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 09, 2014, 01:41:49 AM
But studying abroad in college is MUCH more common, and that's a crazy agr gap. If it's HS/MS, it makes me wonder if it's a Liu thing (I'm assuming the family is quite rich.)

If it's Uni, I already have a headcanon that John said 'screw you guys and your exorcism, I'm becoming a lawyer/fashion designer/etc,' and then the grandfather says YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME HERE.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 09, 2014, 04:23:02 AM
I have  friend I went to elementary school with who has a gap like that with her sister... but you are right it's not common, maybe if they were more brothers then it would be more possible for the gap to be between the eldest and the youngest.

As for the leaving the clan part, I don't know, he sounds as if he were in good terms with Liu, the short story is theoretically about him requesting Liu to buy him a souvenir while he visits Japan.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 09, 2014, 04:41:28 AM
Well, Cheng-Long might be more lenient. He seems that way. Plus, he was apparently put through some harsh training himself so he might want what's best for his brother.

John just doesn't seem...exorcist-y...
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 09, 2014, 04:50:57 AM
I actually hope there is something in the tale explaining why John and not a Chinese name... or maybe John isn't the real name. You know, when Japanese, Korean and Chinese move to other countries they sometimes take a first name from said country to avoid romanisation complications and only retain the surname for paper reasons.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 09, 2014, 05:01:02 AM
That is what I was thinking as well. I think the Aerith and Bob is too strong here, and careless on the part of the creators
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Elaedan on February 09, 2014, 12:12:42 PM
^Just makes me to wonder if they are full brothers? They may have different parents, like Satan's sons adress each other "brother/little brother" even for example Rin has different mother...
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: NeeNee on February 09, 2014, 05:24:50 PM
Quote from: http://feriyen.tumblr.com/post/76090840611/neeneen7-feriyen-the-movie-is-the-best-thing
Interviews reveal that Cheng-Long actually was meant to have a bigger role, at least in terms of appearances. For one, there was a “past episode” between him and Usamaro in the storyboard. For another, he was meant to be a growth factor for Yukio. Both were slashed due to the constraints of the film, and because Yukio and Cheng-Long were restricted from having a more active role (presumably so they wouldn’t overshadow Rin and Usamaro). The novelization was cited as a good place to put all this, so I imagine they did cram these extraneous details into there.

I agree that Cheng-Long was severely underused, more so because he’s a character native to the film alone. At the same time, it’s understandable why they made the decisions they did. At least he got plenty of spotlight in the short story!

Huh.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 10, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
Part 3:

http://shakoujirei.tumblr.com/post/76199771799/souvenir-in-blue-exorcist-the-movie-3
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 10, 2014, 10:50:20 PM
Quote from: http://feriyen.tumblr.com/post/76090840611/neeneen7-feriyen-the-movie-is-the-best-thing
Interviews reveal that Cheng-Long actually was meant to have a bigger role, at least in terms of appearances. For one, there was a “past episode” between him and Usamaro in the storyboard. For another, he was meant to be a growth factor for Yukio. Both were slashed due to the constraints of the film, and because Yukio and Cheng-Long were restricted from having a more active role (presumably so they wouldn’t overshadow Rin and Usamaro). The novelization was cited as a good place to put all this, so I imagine they did cram these extraneous details into there.

I agree that Cheng-Long was severely underused, more so because he’s a character native to the film alone. At the same time, it’s understandable why they made the decisions they did. At least he got plenty of spotlight in the short story!

Well if they make a second movie I demand Liu be in it. And with better demon designs. Ungeneric storyline I'd love, but you can only hope for so much sometimes.

Thanks Archer for the postings!
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 10, 2014, 11:07:15 PM
Ofc. He must be used more! Unless it's a movie of the Kyoto Arc...which I would also love.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 10, 2014, 11:11:37 PM
Ugh I'd love that also, but I think that arc really deserves a larger time-frame.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 10, 2014, 11:12:40 PM
Then a two-parter. Like they do in Hollywood Nowadays.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: themoonlandian on February 10, 2014, 11:15:53 PM
Makes sense, but the first part would probably mainly be build up that a lot of people would be like, What the hell? Where's my action?
And we're all sitting here on the forum squealing, and dying for part 2.

*sigh* But I'd rather rebooted anime :P
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: sand dragon on February 11, 2014, 06:40:32 AM
^I would love rebooted anime as well, I don't think that only a movie will make me satisfied. The kyoto arc deserved an anime.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 11, 2014, 07:05:34 AM
If the Kyoto Arc were a movie, it would start with the incident that revealed Todou as a traitor and end with the revival of the IK, then the second movie would cover all the action until the IK is defeated.

But I would prefer if the series returned with HQ OVAs like Hellsing did.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Elaedan on February 11, 2014, 11:50:49 AM
^I too wouldn't be satisfied with just OVAs or movies, they are nice add but I would love re-booted anime!! I crave for it! Give us those all!!
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 13, 2014, 11:08:20 PM
Not from the movie novel itself but it's about the tiny flashback we see in the movie:

http://shakoujirei.tumblr.com/post/76551951317/heres-a-quickie-dialogue-lifted-from-the#post-notes
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 13, 2014, 11:36:30 PM
Oh wow. That's worse than I thought. I thought it was just some initiation rite. Dat family.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 14, 2014, 06:50:30 AM
Hahaha... I actually commented on the publication and the blogger answered me:

http://shakoujirei.tumblr.com/post/76605106863/ooc
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: tardar-sauce on February 14, 2014, 07:08:27 AM
This is really thought-provoking. Tell the blogger I said thanks. Is that pretty much it or was there more to it? John seemed pretty friendly to me.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: MetallicArcher on February 14, 2014, 07:10:19 AM
I will ask him, from what I gather he doesn't have the book that one comes from. And I will certainly tell him you said thanks.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Jae on February 14, 2014, 05:17:39 PM
I'm going to sneak in here all ninja-like.

No, I do not! There are at least three books for the movie: the short story, the novelization, and the visual guide. What I've been summarizing is the short story with the radio drama adaptation. The novelization is where the extra lines about ancestry and the pug originated. I only have the short story, which I'm not done with yet.

I agree that John seems like a decent fellow, if disconnected from the rest of the family's traditions dealing with exorcism. I think Liu envies the relationship Rin and Yukio have, because he has a hard time talking to John, like avoiding a call in favor of e-mail (this is implied to be a regular occurrence between them). Liu is a great exorcist, but we see that he isn't good at much beyond his job. There's more on this very soon in the short story, which I've been lagging on due to my studies.

Thus far I don't believe the reason for "John" has been disclosed, but I assume that it must be an overseas name he adopted. There's not a lot on him. But the majority of the Japanese fanbase believes he's in his 20s, and I'm inclined to think so, too, based on his hobbies and tastes.

(Thanks for the thanks!)
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 14, 2014, 05:55:59 PM
I'm going to sneak in here all ninja-like.

No, I do not! There are at least three books for the movie: the short story, the novelization, and the visual guide. What I've been summarizing is the short story with the radio drama adaptation. The novelization is where the extra lines about ancestry and the pug originated. I only have the short story, which I'm not done with yet.

That part was clear, but where did you get that little part of the novelization?

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I agree that John seems like a decent fellow, if disconnected from the rest of the family's traditions dealing with exorcism. I think Liu envies the relationship Rin and Yukio have, because he has a hard time talking to John, like avoiding a call in favor of e-mail (this is implied to be a regular occurrence between them).

So I'm not the only one who noticed how disconnected John was from the rest of the family! My guess is that John and Chenglong (plus, the rest of his family) had a clash of values, and John left. That's one of the reasons Chenglong feels so guilty, because he still wants to look out for his little brother, but there is still that clash of values.

Oh, if Chenglong only knew the REAL relationship between Rin and Yukio... He met them before the real strain happened, certainly, but even back then the seeds were still there. The anime continuity was lenient with it, though they make Yukio look like a bit more of an asshole without realizing that is his reaction to dealing with pressure and stress. But overall, Kyoto was the breaking point in their relationship and that hadn't happened yet.  Now it is broken, and there is nothing to envy. If anything, he should envy Rin's heart...which is the very thing he's been saying makes Rin a terrible exorcist.

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Liu is a great exorcist, but we see that he isn't good at much beyond his job. There's more on this very soon in the short story, which I've been lagging on due to my studies.
Well, I'll wait eagerly until you have time for it. I look forward to hearing the rest of it.

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Thus far I don't believe the reason for "John" has been disclosed, but I assume that it must be an overseas name he adopted. There's not a lot on him. But the majority of the Japanese fanbase believes he's in his 20s, and I'm inclined to think so, too, based on his hobbies and tastes.
Early or late 20s?

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(Thanks for the thanks!)
Lol, you're welcome.
Title: Re: Blue Exorcist: The Movie (Anime Movie)
Post by: Jae on February 14, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
That part was clear, but where did you get that little part of the novelization?

I found some lines floating around the web (bots are great for this with crosschecking). Context was generally lacking, but the nature of the dialogue was self-explanatory.

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So I'm not the only one who noticed how disconnected John was from the rest of the family! My guess is that John and Chenglong (plus, the rest of his family) had a clash of values, and John left. That's one of the reasons Chenglong feels so guilty, because he still wants to look out for his little brother, but there is still that clash of values.

Oh, if Chenglong only knew the REAL relationship between Rin and Yukio... He met them before the real strain happened, certainly, but even back then the seeds were still there. The anime continuity was lenient with it, though they make Yukio look like a bit more of an asshole without realizing that is his reaction to dealing with pressure and stress. But overall, Kyoto was the breaking point in their relationship and that hadn't happened yet.  Now it is broken, and there is nothing to envy. If anything, he should envy Rin's heart...which is the very thing he's been saying makes Rin a terrible exorcist.

Realistically speaking, that does make Rin a terrible exorcist. You're right, though. I think what Liu is actually attracted to is Rin's openness, which is what allows the type of communication he has with Yukio in spite of their dysfunctional ways. Liu is kind of stunted when it comes to self-expression.

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Early or late 20s?

Probably early, if he happens to be a college student.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 14, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
Odd, because the manga is implying that an open heart, and honesty is what makes you a good exorcist. I assume Liu, like Yukio, is vulnerable to demons because of the emotions and experiences he supresses and has never gotten over. Anti-demon beliefs can only get you so far.
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Post by: Paradox on February 14, 2014, 10:28:40 PM
Sorry for asking, but I guess I've missed something...who's John?
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 14, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
Chenglong's little brother from the companion materials. He never appeared in the movie, but Liu is movie-original so I guess we're talking about it here.
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Post by: Jae on February 15, 2014, 01:03:27 AM
Odd, because the manga is implying that an open heart, and honesty is what makes you a good exorcist. I assume Liu, like Yukio, is vulnerable to demons because of the emotions and experiences he supresses and has never gotten over. Anti-demon beliefs can only get you so far.

Having an open and honest heart is ideal! It ensures that the character is strong and insusceptible to manipulation. Rin has what it takes to be a great exorcist.

On the other hand, Liu's gripe with Rin is their clash in perspective. The way I see it, exorcists, first and foremost, exorcise demons. Saving people is a byproduct. Rin, however, wants to do it the other way around and play devil's advocate (ooh, pun). Picture a doctor deciding against treating a disease, because he doesn't wish harm to the bacterial organism. Liu, as well as Yukio, find that way of thinking extremely problematic. Essentially, Rin is too sweet.

For that matter, the difference between Liu and Yukio is the timing of their experiences. Liu has venerability on his side. He spent many long years rationalizing his choice, regardless of lingering feelings, to toughen it out. Yukio doesn't have that luxury, because his problems revolve around Rin.

And Rin is, well, around.

That said, they've both got issues! Liu is probably more lenient with Rin than Yukio is, because he doesn't have the same stressors and can actually relate, to a point, which makes him far better off than poor Yukio. He's a little more open-minded and malleable, but also a lot more confident in his beliefs.

I'm not sure of what I'm saying anymore.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 15, 2014, 01:38:51 AM
No, it makes sense. One issue though, and I'm just asking for my own reasons: the Liu family hates all demons and you said Chenglong has accepted his family's view. Why is he still treating Rin like an exorcist, instead of something to be killed? (Or is that because he hasn't truly accepted it?)
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Post by: Jae on February 15, 2014, 02:15:08 AM
Liu doesn't see Rin as an exorcist, though he does acknowledge the desire to be one. I'd use Izumo's argument from the manga, where exorcists with demon blood aren't unheard of. Rin is still a human being, not to mention the intention of using him on the Order's part. It's probably more about the pragmatism behind it than anything personal on Liu's end. He doesn't necessarily hate demons so much as he's been indoctrinated to view them as imminent threats, after all.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 15, 2014, 02:34:00 AM
Oh, that makes sense. And it is very far away from Yukio's view of things. Yukio has a personal vendetta against them. Or, so to say, his personal feelings are a large part of why he hates them so much. He truly hates demons, but views Order-loyalists as an exception.
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Post by: NeeNee on February 15, 2014, 06:50:42 AM
Am I the only one who was surprised that Lui never doubted Rin's loyalty? I mean, this is a demon preventing exorcists from hurting other demons. That should sound alarming to even the most trusting of exorcists, and Liu isn't the most trusting. And yet, the topic was never brought up at all.

I understand that they already beat the issue to death in the anime and probably didn't want to repeat it, but now the difference is so big that it feels like a plothole (especially since the movie is supposed to take place somewhere halfway the anime).
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Post by: Jae on February 15, 2014, 08:39:20 AM
Oh, that makes sense. And it is very far away from Yukio's view of things. Yukio has a personal vendetta against them. Or, so to say, his personal feelings are a large part of why he hates them so much. He truly hates demons, but views Order-loyalists as an exception.

This is why Yukio can't have nice things. He's very emotional, whereas Liu is a sedate person (and thus less prone to be high strung, much less destructive). Boy should calm down and get a nice massage one of these days.

Am I the only one who was surprised that Lui never doubted Rin's loyalty? I mean, this is a demon preventing exorcists from hurting other demons. That should sound alarming to even the most trusting of exorcists, and Liu isn't the most trusting. And yet, the topic was never brought up at all.

I understand that they already beat the issue to death in the anime and probably didn't want to repeat it, but now the difference is so big that it feels like a plothole (especially since the movie is supposed to take place somewhere halfway the anime).

I was under the impression that he had time to sort out any mixed feelings on Rin prior to the film, judging by his casually bringing up the subject to Shura. He forms a concrete opinion once he sees the enigmatic son of Satan in action, and then he treats Rin for exactly what he is: a stupid, naive boy who doesn't know what he's doing.

That naivety is very familiar to Liu. By the halfway point, he's intimately aware of how Rin's mind works; however, he underestimates the extent of Rin's willpower due to the lack of his own in his childhood. Rin's choice deviates from Liu's expectations; this is what surprises him when they clash.

Liu's apparent apathy to Rin's heritage makes sense if he has a pinch of demon blood or is just used to the idea. Either way, there are no more surprises left after that; a stupid boy doing a stupid thing isn't worth the hullabaloo. The movie played an awkward twist by inserting a character with no outward reaction to Rin's special circumstance, but it worked due to Liu's sheer lack of an impression. He humanized Rin from the start, and, because of that, he didn't have expectations.
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Post by: manypets4me on February 19, 2014, 05:57:06 AM
This movie was very interesting and colorful, but most of all it was one of the most emotional anime movies I have seen by far. 
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Post by: Jae on February 19, 2014, 08:36:48 PM
I agree on how colorful the film was. I was a big fan of the vibrancy, which made it visually appealing and all the more deceptive of the occasional dark and eerie undertones.

That one soundtrack is also creepy as all get-out at the halfway point.


There's approximately enough material left for one more post for the short story. The newest update (http://shakoujirei.tumblr.com/post/77201371111/souvenir-in-blue-exorcist-the-movie-4) is the point where Liu opens up to Yukio a little, and where we learn that he's at least a better heavy drinker than Shura.

Yukio is at the end of his wits.

Of course, Mephisto would be expected to suggest games and manga. What's funny is how they refer to the stuff in relatively formal terms. Though the implication that Liu is willing to potentially buy all games and manga starting with "BI" is, financially speaking, frightening.

(Incidentally, my favorite line is Liu's "I was uncharacteristically stubborn.")
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 19, 2014, 08:48:33 PM
It means, as many people have assumed on tumblr, Liu or his family is FREAKING RICH.
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Post by: Jae on February 19, 2014, 10:43:13 PM
Everything that's been said points to that, yeah. They should be minimally well-to-do, at the least. Material loss doesn't bother Liu at all, like with the malfunction of his phone, so his family must be economically comfortable, if perhaps thinking in tandem on their beliefs regarding materialism (Liu is implied to be Taoist).
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 19, 2014, 11:19:40 PM
"Implied?" I think he is blatantly Taoist, and rightfully so, since it competes with Buddhism as the most common religion in Taiwan by far. Both are at about 33% of the population following them.

Oh, did I mention I have a little headcanon that the Liu family is actually a merger of two different exorcist families? The indigeneous Taiwanese weren't Taoist, and wouldn't have had a Chinese name like "Liu". I think the families merged, and took the name Liu, when the Chinese were emigrating to Taiwan and brought their religion with them.

I only did a precursory study of Taiwanese history though... :/
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Post by: Jae on February 19, 2014, 11:31:25 PM
I only say "implied," because there's no explicit statement of thus that I've seen in canon material. But it's quite obvious, yes!

I like the headcanon! It would make a lot of sense for all the reasons you've stated. I may use the idea for the future fics that I've been meaning to write for ages. If I ever find the motivation.

That reminds me, Liu's given name (成龍) is written with the same characters as Jackie Chan's stage name. Hence my joke that John's birth name must be Chon Wang (http://youtu.be/jU-WAJpAk1M?t=2m4s). I have the lamest sense of humor.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 19, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
Chon Wang huh? I'd take, but I've already started calling him Jinshu. XD Based on the Rat from the zodiac, and a descriptor of the Rat's behavior. Yeah...if I knew more about the different Chinese mythologies I'd have called him something different. I think the Zodiac is a cop-out.

Where did you get that from?

Jackie's brother or something?

I still like it.

Liu's given name is based on one of the four cardinal directions in some sort of Chinese mythology (I forgot the specifics). You probably know them as the four beasts: Suzaku, Seiryu, Byakko, and Genbu. The ones from Fushigi Yugi, Yu Yu Hakusho, etc. The Chinese names are Zhuque, Chenglong, Baihu, and Xuanwu, respectively.

Which...I assigned to other Lius before I knew about John. XD Otherwise would have used Xuanwu. Zhuque is the grandpa in my headcanon.

Wait, does Grandpa have a name in the novel?! I NEED TO KNOW. D:

I only found out about Chenglong and the four beasts by coincidence. Liu keeps calling himself "Seiryu" in Japanese, and I researched it a bit.

That may be why Jackie called himself that. It's a cool name.

Are the kanji characters the same, though?
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Post by: manypets4me on February 20, 2014, 12:15:00 AM
Liu should show up in the manga, even if it is a unimportant role his face should show up.  I can hope :)
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Post by: Jae on February 20, 2014, 12:52:24 AM
Chon Wang huh? I'd take, but I've already started calling him Jinshu. XD Based on the Rat from the zodiac, and a descriptor of the Rat's behavior. Yeah...if I knew more about the different Chinese mythologies I'd have called him something different. I think the Zodiac is a cop-out.

Where did you get that from?

Jackie's brother or something?

I still like it.

It's the name of a character Jackie Chan played in a film. Another character misunderstood it as "John Wayne." No research done at all for this one, haha.

I like Jinshu. It rolls off the tongue nicely.

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Wait, does Grandpa have a name in the novel?! I NEED TO KNOW. D:

I have no idea! If I ever nab the novel one of these days, I'll be sure to skim for that for you.

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I only found out about Chenglong and the four beasts by coincidence. Liu keeps calling himself "Seiryu" in Japanese, and I researched it a bit.

That may be why Jackie called himself that. It's a cool name.

Are the kanji characters the same, though?

Seiryuu (セイリュウ) is the Japanese reading of Liu's name, much as how it would be along the lines of, say, Seong-Ryong in Korean. I rather like the idea of his name being based on Qinglong, even if their characters differ by one.

Liu and Jackie's name means "become [the] dragon," and is written exactly the same. Qinglong's is "blue dragon."

Liu should show up in the manga, even if it is a unimportant role his face should show up.  I can hope :)

I'm hoping with you. Katou labored to design him, so it would be great to see him used more.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
Katou really did design him?!

Wait, it's Quinglong....?! Oh craaaaaaaap, I misread it. My epileptic tree....

Why does he call himself Seiryu then?

(It just dawned on me, after a precursory google search with no noteworthy results, that Jackie Chan may indeed be his namesake. Though some people have "misread" the blue dragon as Chenglong."
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Post by: MetallicArcher on February 20, 2014, 01:41:33 AM
I hadn't paid attention Liu was using the Japanese reading of the ideograms of his name during the movie... But, as far as I understand, that quite common for the Chinese who move into Japan... The Japanese that move to China do the same (have the kanji of their names read with the Chinese reading).
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 01:46:55 AM
I guess so. That's really misleading! Normally there's more thought put into the names, so I assumed it was THAT Seiryuu automatically.

So yeah, Imma steal Jae's name for John. :p If one has an actor/character namesake, they should all have it. :p
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Post by: Jae on February 20, 2014, 02:40:32 AM
Katou did the designs for Liu and Usamaro, yes! Originally, Liu had a more feminine image and wacky hairdos that scare me every time I look at them. Sasaki elaborated that Liu was difficult to draw in terms of posture – as well as expression, I would imagine.

In my opinion, Liu's name would be fascinating if the anime/movie takes place in the ballpark of 2012.
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Post by: MetallicArcher on February 20, 2014, 02:59:58 AM
Do you think you could share those original designs?

Excuse my ignorance, who is Sasaki? What is the ballpark?
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 03:03:52 AM
Do you have access to those? Can you post the original designs somewhere?
I am now curious

Sasaki is one of Katou's assistants.

And why is it so fascinating? The movie might as well take place in "2012". We've already decided in the timeline thread that Katou is intentionally vague about the year AnE takes place. She includes technological advances parallel to the real world.

EDIT: "John's" namesake may be John Woo. In that case, his Chinese name would be Yusheng.
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Post by: Jae on February 20, 2014, 03:33:26 AM
Here's the early draft.

"Ballpark" is synonymous to "estimate" in this context.

Liu was born in early January. If the current year is 2012, he would have been born in the year of the rooster (phoenix) according to the lunar calendar. To be named after the dragon, the phoenix's opposite, paints a picture of balance sought in Taoist philosophy. In short, Liu would have been given a very strong name.

One of the interviews mentioned John in passing, and there was something about Mexico, of all places. I'll read it later. Maybe you're onto something!
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Post by: MetallicArcher on February 20, 2014, 03:36:46 AM
Looking at that sketch I am positive Liu might have even been originally a female... His look there reminds me way too much tot he Hojo sisters from the manga.

I still have a lot of English to learn, it seems...
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 03:45:51 AM
Unfortunately although Katou likes to pretend there is no such thing as a year in her manga, most estimates put the series in either 2009 or 2010. XD

It's so complicated Neenee and Wil thought we were geeking out too much over the year.

Thank you! Yes these are a bit strange.

Wow, Mexico? Really? What is he doing there? Does he travel the world? Is he doing anthropological research? Does he just want to live the cartel life?

Actually I have no clue what it's like in Mexico. Sorry if I offended anyone!
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Post by: Jae on February 20, 2014, 03:54:11 AM
Looking at that sketch I am positive Liu might have even been originally a female... His look there reminds me way too much tot he Hojo sisters from the manga.

Katou said the reference photos given to her by the director led to an effeminate look, so I think they were just going for that type of appearance. Pretty men and all. The director catered Liu to appeal to the female audience, and numerous interviews drill home the fact that Liu's a popular character with women.

By the by, his eyes are brown, for the curious. Even if they look a little reddish in some scenes. They ran through a myriad of hair colors for him, too, because they wanted a believable shade in the realm of Blue Exorcist.

Unfortunately although Katou likes to pretend there is no such thing as a year in her manga, most estimates put the series in either 2009 or 2010. XD

It's so complicated Neenee and Wil thought we were geeking out too much over the year.

I saw the thread! I've seen a lot of people claim 2011, but, honestly, I've all but given up on trying to figure it out. I'll take whatever is given, if it ever is.

I'm not sure if the interview states he's actually in Mexico or they both just cropped up in the same spot out of sheer coincidence. I'll get back to you on that asap.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 04:26:20 AM
Was Katou the one who decided the hair colot in the end? There were some people a while back (Chino, I think) saying "unnatural colors simply don't exist in AnE. It's all hair dye or demon blood." I believed that for a while, so when I thought about Chenlong's hair (and purple-haired lady) My reaction was "wait, what?!"
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Post by: Jae on February 20, 2014, 05:00:21 AM
Sasaki is the one who talked about the hair. As you can see in the concept, Liu first had a bolder hair color. Because that would have looked like a wig, in a world where hair color – excepting those manipulated by dye – are generally on the sensible side, they strove for a color that wouldn't stray from that worldly perspective.

It implies that Liu doesn't dye his hair, so if we follow the theory that only those with demon blood have strange natural colors, Liu's family would have intermingled with demons in the distant past.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 05:08:00 AM
That's the thing. I am willing to accept the Hojos are demon-blooded, but I don't want Shura or the Lius to be. Especially since the Lius hate demons so much.

So I don't agree with the idea....at all. Despite his natural silver/blue color or whatever. It is close enough to platinum blonde anyway.
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Post by: themoonlandian on February 20, 2014, 05:13:55 AM
Why not Shura? I think it was Archer who said it, but I like the idea she is descended from that guy in that myth with the snakes and princesses and stuff. (Totally forgot pretty much everything about it already....)

What if Liu is just albino?
Though it is true people can be born with, like tardar says, platinum blonde, and possibly even white.
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Post by: tardar-sauce on February 20, 2014, 05:15:27 AM
Because Izumo has the demon blood already.
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Post by: themoonlandian on February 20, 2014, 05:17:51 AM
But Izumo also said it was common for exorcists to have demon blood.
Is it really that bothersome to have more people with it to you?? Shura's blood would probably be pretty thin by now anyways.
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Post by: MetallicArcher on February 20, 2014, 05:28:36 AM
Well, it was said demon blood is not uncommon among exorcist.

The Hojo are bound to have demon blood (look at those slitted pupils, they not only summon snakes, they look like them, the father as well).

As for Liu, I think Jae explained it that it's not so much about "hating" demons but about being "wary" because what went down the first time Usamaro was allowed to run wild.

As for Shura, her flashback showed her with fangs... plus her hair.

As for Liu, his hair looked very light pale blue to me, rather than platinum... then again I was still with eyesight problems when the movie came out, maybe I should go check it again.

Setting aside his hair colour or that it's not uncommon for exorcist to have demon blood, we saw, vias the MyoDha flashback and now with Izumo's flashback, that there are clans guarding humans from dangerous demons without belonging tot he True Cross and, at least within Shinto clans, mixing blood with demons that were seen as guardians to help guard off the evil ones was a common practise... I think the same can apply to the Cheng Long family. Maybe they were an independent clan protecting their part of Taiwan and then they affiliated for whatever reasons into the True Cross.
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Post by: Jae on February 20, 2014, 05:57:45 AM
Liu's hair is classified as "light blue."

I see your concern with the idea, tardar. It's jarring to consider that the family would be related to demons, by and large, after being exposed to their distrustful attitude. There are a lot of missing details that we've the liberty to fill in, so I think we should just stick with what makes each of us happy until we learn more – if we ever do.

Anyway, I translated the part of the interview where John is mentioned. Takahashi, the director, says that, if he were to make another story, he'd like to focus on Yukio. Perhaps, while on an overseas business trip, he'd be abducted to somewhere like Mexico. The nearest branch would come down to help, but their efforts would be impeded by the language barrier. John might be one of the people who come to save Yukio.
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Post by: MetallicArcher on February 20, 2014, 06:16:02 AM
That makes it sound as if John was into the exorcism business as well.

Education is Mexico is free and the universities are rather good. If go with that John is trying to independence himself from the clans tradition, even if it's sounds crazy, I know people who make the economical effort to move into another country to access free education there because, in the long run, the expenses of moving are lower than the expenses of a 5-6 years career.

Also, @moon, the god you say is Susanoo, the snake he killed was Orochi (an eight headed monster) and he married Kushi-nada-hime (the last surviving of the 8 daughters of Ashi-nadzuchi and Te-nadzuchi, the other seven had been devoured by Orochi, Susanoo saved Kushinada and marries her).

This reminds me, in regards of Shura's sword, many seem to believe that it's the Kusa-nagi no tsurugi, that Susanoo extracted from Orochi's tail after killing it. But I think it's more likely the Totsuka-no-Tsurugi (also known as Ame-no-Habakiri , Ame-no-Ohabari or Worochi-no-Aramasa, that belonged to Izanagi and he passed down to Susanoo before he abandoned the heavens.

For two reasons:

- the Kusa-nagi no tsurugi belongs tot he Imperial family of Japan, I'm not sure if Kazue would actually go and say it's in the hands of some random person even if Shura has been stated as belonging to a rather important actually historically existing ninja clan.

- the release command, translations vary, says "Slay the serpent that devoured the 7 princesses." and the sword used to slay Orochi was Totsuka-no-Tsurugi, not Kusa-nagi no tsurugi.

Of course, Kazue could always pull Shura's sword being one of the many replicas that were made of Kusa-nagi no tsurugi to prevent the real one being stolen.
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Post by: themoonlandian on February 20, 2014, 06:34:04 AM
Thanks, Archer! I feel so bad when I forget these things DX

I believed that about her sword, too, but now that you list those two reasons, I believe your reasoning more.

Would a replica be able to do what she does with it though?
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