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Chapter 41 Discussion
« on: December 01, 2012, 02:09:12 AM »
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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 02:15:35 AM »
I've read it.

My reaction:


Or more appropo'ly:



Return of Toudou! All hail the ASSHAT!
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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 02:28:09 AM »
LOL That was a GREAT Chapter. Dont get too many of those out. Before I noticed the "boys" outfits later hahahaha...I noticed that Shiemi's hair is getting longer, its shoulder length now. I like it.

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 02:52:01 AM »
So they are actually cooking in the dorm kitchen. That makes me happy. I always wondered if it was just an anime thing.

And it looks like we're going for mystery no. 3, Mayuko of the toilet. Not the most exciting one, but at least the girls get something to do this time (it's in the girl's restroom). Izumo's still upset about Shiemi saving her.

Wow, this ghost is even more annoying than the last one. And Izumo's familiars are some lazy bums. I wouldn't trust those too much if I were you, girl.

WHAHAHAHAHAHA! Where did they get those wigs..? Oh god, Rin looks like the most normal one of the bunch. I can see the yaoi fans going even more crazy.

What the hell is Mephisto doing? Still trying to lock the gate? To his credit, no-one seems the least bit surprised, so they must be pretty aware of his powers.

Okay, so I was wrong about Toudou. He's back. And he managed to hide his wing-ears. I wonder who he's visiting?

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 03:18:55 AM »
I am pretty sure thats Toudou's father on his deathbed. I could be wrong, but who else would he be visiting without the demon ears?

I really liked Rins lil baby girl pony tail he had going there. haha

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 03:24:00 AM »
I was wondering... I know Toudou gained youth from eating the demon, but he looks significantly younger in these panels. Flashback?

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2012, 03:28:14 AM »
I am pretty sure thats Toudou's father on his deathbed. I could be wrong, but who else would he be visiting without the demon ears?
What's the point of hiding his demon ears while visiting his father? Even without that, I'm pretty sure he'd notice the massive age difference (Toudou used to be 50, now he looks like a teen. Not the kind of thing a parent would easily miss).

I was wondering... I know Toudou gained youth from eating the demon, but he looks significantly younger in these panels. Flashback?
He does?

I thought he looked about the same as last time ('cept for the ears, of course). He looked really young in his demon form.

(Welcome, btw. I'm glad you're finally posting. :)) )
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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2012, 03:34:16 AM »
He does?

I thought he looked about the same as last time ('cept for the ears, of course). He looked really young in his demon form.

(Welcome, btw. I'm glad you're finally posting. :))

Haha, thanks! I was sort of a quiet lurker for a while there. :)

I feel like he looks smaller, almost, in frame at least. It could be the hair, too (looks a bit longer which might also give him a more child-like face).
But yeah, definitely no demon ears or teeth on him, which is interesting. Either way, I had a speculation that he never really died (I can't remember if this was ever addressed in the manga, but I think it was vaguely assumed) and it's nice to see him getting attention again. Toudou was always pretty curious to me.

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2012, 03:45:08 AM »
^ Yukio said he'd regenerate, so I never really doubted he would.

I just thought he would lay low for a while longer. You know, stay in hiding until the Order is directing their attention at something else. Then again, we have no idea where he is, so it could be in his secret headquarters for all we know.

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2012, 03:46:19 AM »
Even rereading a second time, I can't take cross-dressing Yukio seriously even as he ponders. I almost forgot about his "I got ya now you sonuvabitch" smirk on page 14. God, I can't take much more of the heavyduty foreshadowing that if he ever went bad, he'd give Toudou a run for his money on dickish manipulation.

Good to see some development with Izumo. I'm going to finish my holiday fic from last year and Izumo's the central character. I want to get why she feels embarrassed over Shiemi rescuing her. Overall it looks like she can only work with Shiemi because they balance out each other's familiars. Perhaps some snippets of her past?

I am pretty sure thats Toudou's father on his deathbed. I could be wrong, but who else would he be visiting without the demon ears?

How so? I think it's his boss. (I got Ernst Palpatine vibes from that guy on his deathbed, so I'm on alert.) Also, I think he hides the traits depending on how he wants to appear (with Mamushi) or if he's fighting or not. How? Dunno, but he's known how for a while, given how he fooled Mamushi.

Plus, after Toudou's repeated tactic of tormenting Yukio on the basis of their shared resentments towards their family, I don't think Toudou is exactly a dutiful sib or son.

He's such a cute little manipulative bastard.
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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2012, 04:22:42 AM »
Hey everyone, here's my translated summary of Chapter 41:

While cooking breakfast, Rin reprimands Yukio (you read that right) for not answering his texts, as he needs to know whether Yuki needs grub or lunch, etc. Yukio says lately he's been very busy; the number of clients visiting the Order's Consultation Services is still on the rise. Rin asks if this is related to the Seven School Mysteries, to which Yukio says probably, investigations are under way.

Rin: "That means there are more people like Godaiin. If we solve the School Mysteries according to Mephisto's task, this mess gets cleared up, right? I'll definitely clear them and give Godaiin the eye medicine. Heck, just pass the medicine out to everybody!"
Yukio: "Must be nice to be so simplistic, big brother."

As Yukio is about to leave, Rin asks him if he's hiding something. Yukio denies it, but Rin says when he's all smiley he's being secretive. Yukio departs; Kuro tells Rin that he is most certainly hiding something, based on his smell. Then Shiemi pops in, asking where Yuki-chan is; Rin says most likely he left for cram school, is it something about today's mission?

Shiemi: "That's not it! Umm ... I'll tell you if everything goes all right!"
Rin: "!? What's with everyone ... good luck/do your best on your mission today!"
Shiemi: "Thanks, I'll do my best! You too, Rin!" (What a dazzling smile~)

Rin meets up with Bon and Co., depressed that he couldn't even take down a measly ghost. Shima laughs about Yukio-sensei's homework ("critically assess your weak points/problems and set goals for yourself"), saying that he'd erased his memories clean from yesterday (Bon: "You're the one who needs to fix their problems the most!"). Koneko wonders who Takara really is; Bon informs them that his real name is Takara Nemu, he's the son of the CEO of the toy-making company Takara Hobby, and he's a second year (so one year above them). While everyone geeks out over this new information, Bon asks Koneko if he's feeling all right, as he doesn't seem as sprightly as usual. Koneko dodges this question, says he's all right, and wonders if Shiemi+Izumo will be okay on their mission today.

THe night before, Yukio assigns the girls with Mission 3, the girl's bathroom case. As Izumo lives in the girls' dorm, she explains that in the northern bathroom on the sixth floor, some third years recently did a test of courage (kimo-dameshi) and got locked in; when they were finally rescued they were in a nearly soulless state (as if their souls have been sucked out), and are currently on leave of absence from school. Yukio adds that unlike the okama, this ghost is a truly malicious and evil customer; on top of that, it only appears in front of girls, which means Shiemi and Izumo will be fighting it by themselves. Shiemi says let's do our best, Kamiki-san! Izumo turns on her Alpha Bitch mode and snaps that she will be doing most of the offensive fighting, as Shiemi is more suited to healing and defense, and who'd want to team up with her anyway! Yukio sternly reminds Izumo to learn from the boys' poor performance against the previous battle, and cooperate with her team member.

Later, Izumo asks Paku on what she should do; Paku notes that ever since summer vacation, Izumo has been irritated by the fact that Shiemi had saved her on the mountain. Paku asks why Izumo dislikes Shiemi, as the latter isn't one who'd hurt Izumo or anything; Izumo snaps that she doesn't need a reason for hating someone, and that she doesn't want to be friendly/close to anybody else other than Paku.

Izumo: "You know as well as I do, Paku - that I have a goal." (Does this mean we're finally getting to her past? Awesome~)

Back to the present: the girls are told to proceed to the sixth floor bathroom ahead of the boys, as the latter group does preparations. Izumo summons her Byakko foxes, both of which are sullen and rather uncooperative; they'd been whisked away in the middle of a festival and enjoying the shrine offerings. As the girls leave, Rin asks Yukio what they're going to do; Yukio says they'll be acting under Lord Pheles' directions.

The girls enter the ultra-fancy bathroom; the boys arrive shortly thereafter as well, and Yukio directs them to fight while the boys stay behind the wall. While checking the stalls, Izumo resolves to pay her debts towards Shiemi from the Kyoto mission. Shiemi soon finds a locked stall and the girls confront it; the evil spirit turns out to be a foul-mouthed manifestation of the female students' evil/ugly thoughts (spouting jealousy and bullying/hurtful words). I'm too lazy to translate the whole fight ... basically Izumo calls upon the Byakko, but the foxes go on strike; the spirit tries to strangle Izumo with its hair-tentacles but gets repelled by Giant Ewok Niichan's Flower Power; Shiemi has Niichan produce some rice plants to appease the foxes (they're Inari spirits, after all) and get their help; the evil spirit starts choking Shiemi and the foxes finally help out with Izumo's spell, destroying the ghost. Shiemi thanks Izumo and Izumo reciprocates, albeit reluctantly.

Then we are treated to the delightful sight of the male students (Yukio-sensei included) cross-dressing and applauding the girls on their victory (turns out this was what their "preparations" were for). While Izumo dissolves into hysterical laughter, Yuki-Neechan ponders that there's no way the evil ghost was on the loose all this time; normally it would've just fulfilled the role of one of the Seven Mysteries, as opposed to actually harming the students.

Meanwhile in Russia, Mephisto casts a spell involving giant keys and a pentacle (Keys to the Kingdom, anyone?), using his powers as the Lord of Time to temporarily halt the Gehenna Gate's spread. He informs the Angelic Legion, however, that even he cannot stop time forever; his spell would only last for 4 or 5 months. The global rise of consultations with exorcists is the direct result of the Gate opening and Gehenna influencing Assiah, and they must quickly determine who their enemy is. Lighting calls BS and says there's only one organization with such scientific/financial power to be responsible; the Daystar (or Venus?) Association: Illuminati.

Chapter ends with Toudou entering a bedchamber and congratulating the Leader/Commander on opening the Gehenna Gate. The Leader (who appears to be quite ill or old) thanks him.

« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 04:27:21 AM by RocksNBlocks »

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2012, 04:29:33 AM »
I am just guessing about his father in the deathbed as I dont know hardly anything about Toudou or who he deals with secretly. But since this manga is full of cliches...it possibly might be. :)

Edit:

Thanks for the translation, RocksnBlocks. We all know now who it was. :)
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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2012, 04:36:41 AM »
Even rereading a second time, I can't take cross-dressing Yukio seriously even as he ponders.
I actually think they all look pretty convincing.

Well, except Bon.

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I am pretty sure thats Toudou's father on his deathbed. I could be wrong, but who else would he be visiting without the demon ears?

How so? I think it's his boss. (I got Ernst Palpatine vibes from that guy on his deathbed, so I'm on alert.)
You too?! Oh noes! I was hoping it was just my imagination.

Well, he can't be that bad, can he? Kazue isn't crazy.

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Plus, after Toudou's repeated tactic of tormenting Yukio on the basis of their shared resentments towards their family, I don't think Toudou is exactly a dutiful sib or son.
Going by the clothes, I had the impression it was a business visit.


EDIT:
Great summary, RocksNBlocks! :D

As Yukio is about to leave, Rin asks him if he's hiding something. Yukio denies it, but Rin says when he's all smiley he's being secretive. Yukio departs; Kuro tells Rin that he is most certainly hiding something, based on his smell.
wut? 0_0

Rin can smell if people are lying now? Or does this mean he smells more like a demon? (In that case, I'm fearing for the tests.)

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Yuki-Neechan ponders that there's no way the evil ghost was on the loose all this time; normally it would've just fulfilled the role of one of the Seven Mysteries, as opposed to actually harming the students.
I was wondering why they didn't have a stack of dead corpses yet if the ghost was that aggressive. Guess there's still more behind this.

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Lighting calls BS and says there's only one organization with such scientific/financial power to be responsible; the Daystar (or Venus?) Association: Illuminati.
And there we have our secret organisation.

Not a very original name, but whatever.

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2012, 04:45:35 AM »

As Yukio is about to leave, Rin asks him if he's hiding something. Yukio denies it, but Rin says when he's all smiley he's being secretive. Yukio departs; Kuro tells Rin that he is most certainly hiding something, based on his smell.
wut? 0_0

Rin can smell if people are lying now? Or does this mean he smells more like a demon? (In that case, I'm fearing for the tests.)


NONONO :o
Kuro can smell someone lying. Kuro the cat sith.
Not Rin; that'd be pretty freaky ...

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Re: Chapter 41 Discussion (Spoilers)
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2012, 04:52:52 AM »
^ I think it's still pretty freaky coming from a cat...

But if Kuro can do it, Rin should be able to learn it (assuming he has some decent smell in his demon state).